05-25-2008, 08:50 AM
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A lot of homes have their own pools, a lot of homes have a community pool, and then some homes have both!
Living in a neighborhood with a community pool is definitely understandable. You pay your dues and you get to swim while someone else deals with the maintenance. Love that!
I don't really understand having your own pool while living in a neighborhood that has a community pool. Perhaps someone could explain that to me.
But ultimately I am wondering about the maintenance of having your own pool. Is it easy to take care of? Expensive? A pain in the butt? What are the pros and cons?
My parents had a pool and it was SUCH A BIG PAIN because the heater was always going out or the automatic cover (which I know you don't need in FL) was breaking, etc. That pool cost them a lot more money above the regular service/maintenance fees. But I'm guessing that 1) those pools in FL probably aren't heated (are they?) and 2) you don't need to mess with covers (especially if you have a screened-in area) so what is the cost of regular maintenance?
Anyone have some pool talk to share?
Thanks.
05-25-2008, 12:50 PM
Location: Championsgate, Fl
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The biggest difference is personal preference. Some people dont want to lay in the sun in public and would rather do it in the privacy of their own back yard. Also there is a hygene issue with young children using a pool. Whilst community pools are pretty well maintained, some people prefer to use a pool where other children whose parents dont have any consideration about personal hygene dont use, for example children may have verucas, urinate in the pool. Not everyone inparts decency to children or even uses pool diapers on young children.
Is there additional costs involved, absolutly, but if you know how to maintain your own pool yourself with the proper chemicals then this can be greatly reduced. My in-laws have a gas heated pool and find they never need to heat it except for the hot-tub. And they only have someone to come out to service it once a year.
It is all down to personal preference. A pool typically wont add value to a home, but you cant put a price on the enjoyment you and your family will get from your own private pool.
05-25-2008, 06:56 PM
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cfIfan
A pool typically wont add value to a home, but you cant put a price on the enjoyment you and your family will get from your own private pool.
I have to applaud your pool value observation. Not many Real Estate Agents
are able to grasp that...
05-25-2008, 08:10 PM
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I had both. I prefer having my own pool in my backyard for the following reasons:
1. I could go outside, throw down beers, without caring if somebody would tell on me for drinking at the pool.
2. I could hop in the pool after mowing the lawn. (Wouldn't have to walk to a community pool)
3. My wife and I could do the hippity dippity in the pool without anyone ever knowing. We could also go au naturel.
4. The pool added great atmosphere when looking out from our family room. It was nice to see that water.
5. Many times in the summer, you just need cooled off. Just jump in and out.
6. You could lie out and get sun, without caring how you looked.
And last but not least, you don't have to swim in someone elses pee.
As for adding value to a home, in Florida, it definitely adds value. It doesn't add up to what you paid for the pool, but it definitely adds value. Many people in Florida will not even look at a home unless it has a pool.
05-25-2008, 09:30 PM
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Thanks for the replies. I think r-h-i-s really spelled it out nicely.
Here in Idaho a pool adds no value to a home. A lot of people do not want a pool because of our cold/freezing winters. We have a short pool season.
I think I want a pool in FL.
Because like cfIfan mentioned the personal enjoyment speaks volumes for us.
05-26-2008, 01:06 AM
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ThePolyPrincess
A lot of homes have their own pools, a lot of homes have a community pool, and then some homes have both!
Living in a neighborhood with a community pool is definitely understandable. You pay your dues and you get to swim while someone else deals with the maintenance. Love that!
I don't really understand having your own pool while living in a neighborhood that has a community pool. Perhaps someone could explain that to me.
But ultimately I am wondering about the maintenance of having your own pool. Is it easy to take care of? Expensive? A pain in the butt? What are the pros and cons?
My parents had a pool and it was SUCH A BIG PAIN because the heater was always going out or the automatic cover (which I know you don't need in FL) was breaking, etc. That pool cost them a lot more money above the regular service/maintenance fees. But I'm guessing that 1) those pools in FL probably aren't heated (are they?) and 2) you don't need to mess with covers (especially if you have a screened-in area) so what is the cost of regular maintenance?
Anyone have some pool talk to share?
Thanks.
I lived in Florida for many years without a pool....now that I have one...I can't imagine living here without it. It's mere presence seems to make the backyard cooler. I love sitting around it even in the winter time when it's too cold to swim. We haven't heated ours yet. We do have a newer pool with a salt chlorination system. It's a piece of cake to maintain. Take a bottle of water down to the local pool store every couple of weeks in warm weather. They'll test it for you and tell you if you need to add salt or acid. Most of the time, we need neither. We average about $40 a YEAR in chemicals for the pool. Even if I never swam in it, it's worth it for the ambience it adds. Of course, DH loves it after he's cut the grass.
05-26-2008, 05:50 AM
Location: Orlando
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I guess I am of the mindset I like my own. I know what the level of hygene is. If I want to swim au natural I can. I dont find them terribly expensive. maybe 20-40/ month if you do your own maintenance. A guy that I know does pool care and I think he charges about $125/ month. If you go with a salt system there is less thought to the chemical process. It seems if you have a community pool it is more of an ordeal to go than opening the door and jumping.
I think a pool is a nice addition here in FL. as to it adding value. I must disagree. If you find 2 similar homes the pool home will have smaller square footage to stay at the same price as the home without the pool. This is a consistent search experience for me. Seems most can recoup the bulk of the installation price after a few years.
Pools have become very expensive to install now. They are often small and shallow.
I like the large and deep but that is a preference.
05-26-2008, 06:16 AM
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Adjustments for pools are extracted out of the market. In some markets it's easy to extract and in
others it is almost impossible. There are specific neighborhoods (short term rentals) near Disney
were homes without pool will not sell/rent. In my experience most pool Owners only get back 10k-15k
adjusted from their 40k+/- investment.
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05-26-2008, 08:39 AM
Location: Championsgate, Fl
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I have to applaud your pool value observation. Not many Real Estate Agents
are able to grasp that...
Its true, whilst some people only want to look at homes with pools, they wont neccessarily pay extra for it. The value you get by having a pool wont translate into an increase in price simply because whilst it is nice to have and with great pool landscaping it may add a slight value, the reality of it is that a pool is a drain on resources and while some may want it, others dont. If you have a pool with great landscaping which cost $60,000, the reality of it is that you would be lucky to see a $5,000 increase in value. If you want to add value to a home, convert a den into a bedroom or renovate a kitchen, dont add a pool.
05-26-2008, 08:45 AM
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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My community has a pool, our HOA fees pay for the upkeep as well as other things. It is nice to go and make use of it, not have to take care of one at home AND talk to the neighbors and catch up.
HOWEVER, if I had the money I would definetly LOVE to have my own. I would love to lay out naked, have parties out there, maybe build an outdoor kitchen out there. I would probably spend alot of time out by the pool.
Of course the money needed to build a pool is part of the consideration but I should imagine the monthly upkeep would be a pain. Some of my neighbors have their own well that they use for their pool and lawn rather then city water to offset the cost.
From what I have seen, it looks cheaper to buy a house that already has a pool, rather then buy a house and build the pool. Maybe the realtors could chime in on that.
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People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)