25 cent toll increase-opinions?

[totsuka]

It makes sense to make the people who use the toll roads to pay for them.

[Soup Not See]

Originally Posted by annerk

Your logic is flawed. Everyone will pay higher taxes for your convenience. It's not a convenience to all, just to a small few.

Small few ? Hardly ... funny how some folks will complain about a 25 cent toll increase, but go out and pay $3 for a beer at a bar or buy a new pair of $50 jeans when they don't need them.

[annerk]

Originally Posted by leftee

Small few ? Hardly ... funny how some folks will complain about a 25 cent toll increase, but go out and pay $3 for a beer at a bar or buy a new pair of $50 jeans when they don't need them.

What does a $3 beer or $50 jeans (that's pretty cheap for both, by the way) have anything to do with toll roads? If you want to use them, then pay the going rate, but don't expect others to subsidize your convenience.

And considering there are millions of people in this state who would end up with higher taxes to cover the cost of the roads if they were free, when only 100K of them actually use those roads, then yes, in the big picture it is a small few.

[jghorton]

Originally Posted by keithwand

If you don't like the toll then don't take the road.

Move closer to your job and skip tolls and surface time altogether.

I have a Sunpass and use it 2-3 times annually while a neighbor of mine will jump on and pay the .50 to go just 1 mile.

Seems silly to me.

Other cities manage to build new roads and provide transportation across their city... without tolls -- by using tax funding.

I wonder how much of the Orlando toll road system is actually paid fror out of collected tolls ... and how much is actually funded by tax dollars?

[annerk]

Originally Posted by jghorton

Other cities manage to build new roads and provide transportation across their city... without tolls -- by using tax funding.

I wonder how much of the Orlando toll road system is actually paid fror out of collected tolls ... and how much is actually funded by tax dollars?

FYI--about 90% of mass transit funding comes from the Federal government. (ie our tax dollars.) About 50% of the money the feds pay out for public transit goes to support rural transit systems that primarily serve paratransit and seniors.

[keithwand]

Originally Posted by annerk

My water, sewer, garbage collection, irrigation water, electric, gas, and digital cable/Internet combined doesn't add up to $400 a month averaged out over the year--I'm not sure how you can be paying that much year round unless you are heating to 90 and cooling to 62 and have a huge house.

I'm ALL FOR taxing for plastic bags. I carry my own reusable cloth sacks shopping with me, and only use plastic for fresh meat--all of it goes into one bag. Ten cents isn't going to make or break my food budget, and it will help offset carbon footprints.

Do I think that we should have handed out all the bail-out money we did without the upper management and executives taking drastic pay cuts? No. But I don't see where becoming more environmentally friendly in our day-to-day lives is related to bail-outs.

We have 2 little dogs and use most every plastc bag we get from stores including from neighbors. I still want them.
In the cold weather they make for nice hand warmers; no kidding.

[annerk]

Originally Posted by keithwand

We have 2 little dogs and use most every plastc bag we get from stores including from neighbors. I still want them.
In the cold weather they make for nice hand warmers; no kidding.

Install a Doggy Dooley and use a pooper scooper--100% biodynamic way to deal with waste. And invest in a pair of gloves that will last 10 years.

[keithwand]

Nah