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Old 10-28-2018, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Venus
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So, Hubby & I have been watching Once Upon A Time on Netflix. Last night's ep involved Dr. Frankenstein. Egor said to him, "It's magic." The Doc said, "It's more powerful than magic. It's science."

That got me to think that maybe they are the same thing. As Arthur C. Clarke once said, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." One scenario: when you preform magic, you use a caldron-fill it with ingredients ("Eye of newt and toe of frog."), and then whatever you created is supposed to change whatever.

So, in a lab (as opposed to a caldron), these items are combined:
  • 3.0 g salicylic acid
  • 6 mL acetic anhydride
  • 5-8 drops of 85% phosphoric acid or concentrated sulfuric acid
  • Distilled water (about 50 mL)
  • 10 mL ethanol
  • 1% iron III chloride
If you take that combination, it will relieve your headache. (Yes, that is what goes into aspirin these days.) Is that any different?


What do you think? Is magic & science interchangeable or is the a difference?


Cat
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Old 10-28-2018, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Science is magic explained.
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Old 10-29-2018, 07:01 AM
 
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Science is magic explained.
Very good explanation! But if I may ramp things up a bit... I am going to create an acronym and fill in the words the letters of the word MAGIC might stand for temporarily posing as a Fundamentalist Apologist...

Your counter acronym, por favor...

M. Magnificent
A. Acts
G. God
I. Is
C. Capable Of
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Old 10-29-2018, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Robert Heinlein wrote:


"Science is indistinguishable from magic to primitive cultures."
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Old 10-29-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Magic is gently manipulating Nature (with permission.) Science still has a way to go.

But yes, there are simularities.
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Old 11-04-2018, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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My husband works in pharmaceutical research. To this day nobody really knows why paracetamol (otherwise known as acetaminophen) works, they just know it does. But it's not magic. They just know that it does work and since it does, there's not much incentive to spend money on finding out why.


They do understand in minute detail why lots of other drugs work though.
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Old 11-05-2018, 04:20 PM
 
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They just know that it does work and since it does, there's not much incentive to spend money on finding out why.
That's because pharamaceutical companies stockpile that money to help out later if any unknown long term side effects start affecting users in the future....
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Old 11-07-2018, 07:38 AM
 
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Science is magic explained.
Exactly...there are no miracles, either...just things people
have no idea as to how they happened...all explainable...at least someday.
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Old 11-08-2018, 10:06 AM
 
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That's because pharamaceutical companies stockpile that money to help out later if any unknown long term side effects start affecting users in the future....



Paracetamol has been in use for well over a hundred years.
It's effectiveness, efficiacy, potency and side effects are already well documented.
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Old 11-08-2018, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY
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The only example I can think of is alchemy was considered a type of magic, it's chemistry now.
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