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Old 03-15-2011, 07:02 PM
 
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I don't think I would want to have a nurse that couldn't "memorize" symptoms and body parts. But that's just me.
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Old 03-15-2011, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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I don't think I would want to have a nurse that couldn't "memorize" symptoms and body parts. But that's just me.
The point was that it is important to "know" stuff such as anatomy, but it's more important to truly understand concepts such as physiology, pharmacology, etc. Memorizing that stuff without any understanding is dangerous.
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Old 03-15-2011, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Liberal Coast
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I don't know where you got that from, but it's mandatory curriculum here in Connecticut. I just checked the Dept. of Education's website for elementary school; both physical sciences and social sciences are required for all *elementary school* grades.

I do remember when I was in High School, we had to complete "x" credits between grades 10-graduation, with a minimum of one course in each year, but not in each semester. So I loaded up on human psychology, history, chemistry, and electronics in grades 10 and 11, so in my last year I only had to take one class of the sciences. The entire rest of my senior year was all writing, literature, grammar, one math class (computer programming: BASIC), and gym.

I imagine the requirements aren't that much different now, though they've probably lowered the standards.
First, I'm not in Connecticut. Second, I get it from many parents with kids in public schools and public school teachers. These people have experiences in different school districts, and the consensus is the same. California and Connecticut have very different education in most situations.
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Old 03-15-2011, 07:31 PM
 
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Rote memorization is the cornerstone of education in the US. Ask anyone preparing for any of the 100+ standardized tests we use to measure intelligence, fitness for college, worthiness for a medical/nursing license. and they will tell you. You can do VERY well on standardized tests without a grasp of the subject matter.
And that is EXACTLY why I think our current system produces so many people who don't know how to think.

Yes. There are many things you need to memorize. But just because someone can recite the Gettysburg Address it doesn't equate that the speaker knows anything at all about the events of 1863.
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:37 PM
 
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The point was that it is important to "know" stuff such as anatomy, but it's more important to truly understand concepts such as physiology, pharmacology, etc. Memorizing that stuff without any understanding is dangerous.
No I totally get what you where saying.I was trying to say I would be more concerned if I had a nurse who didn't attend school or take any tests.
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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No I totally get what you where saying.I was trying to say I would be more concerned if I had a nurse who didn't attend school or take any tests.
A Holiday Inn nurse?
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Old 03-15-2011, 09:04 PM
 
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A Holiday Inn nurse?
A Naughty Nurse
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Old 03-16-2011, 03:02 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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No I totally get what you where saying.I was trying to say I would be more concerned if I had a nurse who didn't attend school or take any tests.
The point of unschooling isn't necessarily anti-classes or anti-test. Typically, if someone wants to specialize in something, taking classes is absolutely appropriate. Unschoolers are willing to do what it takes to reach a goal. The goal of being a nurse requires licensure, classes & tests. But an unschooler will be open to exploring options - i.e., I want to be a nurse, but don't want to go through enrolling in school right now. OK, so what do I really want to do? Help people experiencing health problems? There are many other ways to do that. Meet a cute doctor? Many ways to do that. If the goal really is to be a nurse, they will happily do what needs to be done to get there.

One doesn't need 12 years of classes & tests to prepare for classes & tests they might need to achieve a goal.
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Old 03-16-2011, 05:18 AM
 
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That term is pretty offensive.
I think my post may have been misinterpreted...my fault and I apologize. I forget the internet is different sometimes and tone and intent can't be read.

That term was coined by a blogger/chick lit author I enjoy for a good laugh. These are the kids who have been kept in a bubble, everybody gets a ribbon and trophy, the world is full of puppies and rainbows, etc...They have a sense of entitlement and can't comprehend a life that doesn't reveolve around their every whim. That was all I meant when referencing the post I quoted.

I sincerely hope it wasn't read as I was criticizing any child with any kind of challenge or disability because I most certainly wasn't, but I can see how it could be read that way. I apologize to anyone who may have read it that way and was offended.
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Old 03-16-2011, 06:53 AM
 
Location: In a house
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The term was coined a lot earlier than the advent of the internet. My mom was a Kindergarten teacher in the 1960's, 70's, and 80's. She used that term all the time to explain why Johnny got to win the prize for "this" event, while Susie could only get the prize for winning "that" event. It was because they were all special snowflakes and, just like snowflakes, each one was unique, and each one was terrific at certain things and not so terrific at other things.

I think anyone who takes offense at the term, needs to step away from the internet and realize that people really ARE all "special snowflakes."

I didn't get the joke when I saw it, I assume it was making fun of parents talking down to their kids and kids eating it up like it was candy. I giggled because THAT was amusing to me.
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