Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Parenting
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 01-05-2010, 08:31 AM
 
897 posts, read 2,455,739 times
Reputation: 309

Advertisements

Most of you read and reply to my posts regarding my daughter(17). Well we decided to see a psychologist b/c of the many issues going on- Well today we went together and I was told that she wants me to let her be more independent and quit treating her like she is younger.. I knew that was alot of our problems and there are more- her absent father died this summer (been divorced since she was 5) I am having a hard time letting go/ being in charge. I have raised her alone and I mean alone for 12 years- She is a great kid- makes great grades- makes mostly good choices etc. I know that she will be in college before I know it- she is a junior- any tips on trying not to micromanage her- I work 2 part time jobs and really need something more time consuming since my kids are older and don't need me anymore.. It is harder than you can imagine.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 01-05-2010, 08:35 AM
 
Location: NoVA
1,391 posts, read 2,647,061 times
Reputation: 1972
How much longer do you plan on being single?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-05-2010, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
24,012 posts, read 28,466,514 times
Reputation: 41122
17 was a very difficult year for me and my DD also. I'm sure that was some of the problem and I had the benefit of her father (my DH) still being in the picture. My experience was that the relationship changes/evolves. Yes, it is difficult to let go but that is what we must do and if they want that, then we've been doing our jobs right. So the first thing you need to know is that this is a sign that you've done well. Congratulations! You don't let go over night though. You start out with small things here and there and work up to them being off to college (or whatever) and living away from home. My DD is now 19 and things are good. We are very close but she is her own self. That is the way it should be.

ETA - your kids still "need you" - just in a different way....
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-05-2010, 09:08 AM
 
897 posts, read 2,455,739 times
Reputation: 309
Quote:
Originally Posted by ♪♫♪♪♫♫♪♥ View Post
How much longer do you plan on being single?

I have no idea
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-05-2010, 09:09 AM
 
897 posts, read 2,455,739 times
Reputation: 309
Quote:
Originally Posted by maciesmom View Post
17 was a very difficult year for me and my DD also. I'm sure that was some of the problem and I had the benefit of her father (my DH) still being in the picture. My experience was that the relationship changes/evolves. Yes, it is difficult to let go but that is what we must do and if they want that, then we've been doing our jobs right. So the first thing you need to know is that this is a sign that you've done well. Congratulations! You don't let go over night though. You start out with small things here and there and work up to them being off to college (or whatever) and living away from home. My DD is now 19 and things are good. We are very close but she is her own self. That is the way it should be.

ETA - your kids still "need you" - just in a different way....

thanks for your thoughts on this!!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-05-2010, 09:55 AM
 
11,642 posts, read 23,916,614 times
Reputation: 12274
Quote:
Originally Posted by hlsess View Post
Most of you read and reply to my posts regarding my daughter(17). Well we decided to see a psychologist b/c of the many issues going on- Well today we went together and I was told that she wants me to let her be more independent and quit treating her like she is younger.. I knew that was alot of our problems and there are more- her absent father died this summer (been divorced since she was 5) I am having a hard time letting go/ being in charge. I have raised her alone and I mean alone for 12 years- She is a great kid- makes great grades- makes mostly good choices etc. I know that she will be in college before I know it- she is a junior- any tips on trying not to micromanage her- I work 2 part time jobs and really need something more time consuming since my kids are older and don't need me anymore.. It is harder than you can imagine.
One thing that will help you is NOT to make any decisions on the spot. If you need to make a decision and can think about it for a day, half a day, or an hour (if that is all you need) then do that. I think that you have responded well to suggestions that you let go, so perhaps you can think about each situation a little as it comes up.

You can't hold on tight until they are in college and then expect them to be completely independent in college. You need to let go slowly. You still have a year and a half until she is in school.

Does she have a drivers license?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-05-2010, 10:00 AM
 
897 posts, read 2,455,739 times
Reputation: 309
Quote:
Originally Posted by Momma_bear View Post
One thing that will help you is NOT to make any decisions on the spot. If you need to make a decision and can think about it for a day, half a day, or an hour (if that is all you need) then do that. I think that you have responded well to suggestions that you let go, so perhaps you can think about each situation a little as it comes up.

You can't hold on tight until they are in college and then expect them to be completely independent in college. You need to let go slowly. You still have a year and a half until she is in school.

Does she have a drivers license?
Thanks-
Yes, she turned 16 in Sept of 10th grade
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-05-2010, 10:12 AM
 
11,642 posts, read 23,916,614 times
Reputation: 12274
Quote:
Originally Posted by hlsess View Post
Thanks-
Yes, she turned 16 in Sept of 10th grade
That's a good place to start letting go. It's difficult. My son will turn 16 this Spring and I know that letting him drive without an adult in the car will be a challenge for me. You are not alone.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-05-2010, 10:19 AM
 
43,011 posts, read 108,071,598 times
Reputation: 30721
For 17 year olds who are responsible and getting good grades, this is the year to stop supervising as much as possible---as if they are 18.

For me, that means her not having to 'get permission' to go places and do things. Instead, she is supposed to simply let you know where she is going and when she'll be home. You have to resist the urge to act like you're granting or denying permission. If you want to still have a set curfew, that's fine, as long as it's appropriate for her age and responsibility. In other words, don't make the curfew too immature. Then simply expect her to notify you of where she'll be and when she'll be home as long as it's within the set curfew. She would only need to ask permission if she's going to be later than the set curfew.

Tell her the reason you ask to be informed of where she's going and when she'll be home is because that's what adults do to protect themselves---so someone knows their whereabouts. And it's a common curtesy to adults living in the same household and she should do it with roomates or with her husband when she marries. That might sound scary but the reality is that in one year she can do anything she wants. You want to use this year to teach her how to safely do whatever she wants. That means keeping in touch and letting you know her whereabouts.

Of course, you monitor to make sure she's managing her independence responsibly. By monitor, I don't mean checking up on her. That's for younger kids. By monitor, I mean keeping alert so you notice if she's starting to make bad decisions like drinking or her grades getting bad. She doesn't need to know you're monitoring her. But if you discover she's being irresponsible, you have a talk with her---as a mentor---unless it's something as serious as drinking, then you have a right to take the car away from her. And you wouldnt' be taking the car away because you're the big bad oppressive Mom who can't let go. You take the car because it's in your name and you're liable. You tell her you'd take the car away from any adult who put you at risk liability-wise. Those are just some examples.

As for how you personally manage to let go emotionally, it's hard, but it's possible. What worked for me was an accident. I didnt' intentionally get a new dog to help me transition emotionally, but we happened to get a second dog at the time I was needing to let go as a parent. As I let go, I transferred some emotions to the dog. It's not as weird as it sounds. I'm not one of those people who treat my dog as a child. But it's nice to have a dog to hug and kiss when you're feeling a little lonely from a child pulling away.

Another important thing is I got involved in activities I had always wanted to do. I started horseback riding. I took a pottery class. I reached out to my friends who didn't have children or whose children were raised to socialize more. I went back to college and started taking some night classes.

You need to start filling your life with your interests. It's time to reinvent yourself because you're not going to be a mom anymore---not in the sense that you are now. You'll be living alone in a year and you don't want to wait until that day comes before you change your life. The reality is that being a mom is your identity. When she leaves, you're going to lose that identity if you don't work towards finding a new one. Also, your house will be lonely when she goes to college so you need to fill your time with things that interest you to keep your mind occupied so you dont' become lonely. And don't discount the possibility of adding a pet to your life. Pet's help people battle loneliness.

I just want to tell you that I'm so pleased to hear that you went to a psychologist with your daughter. And I'm very proud of you for recognizing that you need to let go. It's a hard thing to do. All parents face it. Not all do it well. I know parents who never let go (my mother was one) and it's not healthy for everyone including the mother. You're doing a great job!

Last edited by Hopes; 01-05-2010 at 10:29 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-05-2010, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Australia
1,492 posts, read 3,234,689 times
Reputation: 1723
I do not think that 17,18 or any other year is a magic year that you sudenly stop supervising and you especially don't stop expecting respectful and resposible behaviour.

We expect our spouses to talk with us about where they are going and when they will be back. It's only reasonable. Even at work a coworker does not just vanish off on lunch. They will say "OK if I go on lunch now". Its a question. They are asking your permission. Why? because it's part of working as a team. You might respond with "Can you delay your lunch as I really need to take my lunch break now as I have an apointment". This idea that teens sudenly get to an age where they come and go with no explnation is wrong.

To me while a person lives in a house with another person, they should always be talking and in a way asking permission. I think a parent needs to understand what authority means.

The buck still stops with the parent.

To me it is better to be strict and restrictive than lax and permissive. There are plenty of lax parents to go round and so erring on the side of strictness is not going to alter the balance of society.

I see no problem with a 17y.o. having to ask permission to go out and for the parent to specify the time to be home.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Parenting

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:12 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top