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I totally agree about the zero tolerance policies. They prevent kids like the OPs son from fighting back in the only way that violent people respect.
Absolutely true. That's why I was always relieved that my son only had altercations off school property! It really does put responsible parents in a difficult position.
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However, I do think that punishment serves a purpose. Although it does not solve the problem it does put the parents on notice that there is a rather large problem.
I'm not saying that children shouldn't be punished. I'm saying that's not the only thing that should happen. The school should do more.
She'll better protect her child if she insists the school district evaluate and provide this bully with the proper resources. They will be going to school together for many years, and they live in the same neighborhood. Taking the "I'm only gonna worry about my kid" approach isn't going to truly protect her kid in the long run.
Honestly, they haven't done anything in 3 years. If I were her I would worry about mine first. If they can help the other as well, that's great, but mine first.
SOMEBODY needs to make this kid pay the price for being violent. All the counseling in the world won't help if he doesn't see that his behavior is anti social. If he NEVER gets in trouble why would actually believe his behavior is unacceptable?
Honestly, they haven't done anything in 3 years. If I were her I would worry about mine first. If they can help the other as well, that's great, but mine first.
That's why I recommend writing the letter. When you put something in writing to a school district, suddenly the district takes it seriously.
A written letter is proof that the district was notified. If a parent takes the time to put it in writing, I guarantee that the district will do something.
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SOMEBODY needs to make this kid pay the price for being violent. All the counseling in the world won't help if he doesn't see that his behavior is anti social. If he NEVER gets in trouble why would actually believe his behavior is unacceptable?
He does get disciplined. He's not learning because the district isn't doing more. Counseling will help him see his behavior as antisocial.
If he is abused at home, stopping the abuse is important too. I posted a link to a really good article about the high prevelance of child abuse among bullies.
Schools are required to report suspected child abuse. As a result, it boggles my mind that they don't take the most likely underlying cause of bullying seriously.
My son says that David no longer has any friends in the class. The kids actually call him a bully. My son says that David slapped him in the back and then puched him in the face. He then proceeded to kick another child in the face and hit a few more children. There is something not right with David.
Then a certain resource teacher came and took David out of the classroom for a while. I don't know what that's about. The resource teacher usually deals with kids who have some sort of disability I believe. I'm thinking maybe he has ADD/ADHD who knows?
David also gets frustrated when doing school work. He burst out crying because he didn't understand how to do the work that was requested of him in class.
I really think that David should be suspended for a few days but that's just me.
David is a very small kid my son says he weight 49 pounds. I'm suprised he's not scared to pick on other kids that are bigger than him My son is a foot taller and weighs over 20 pounds more.
My son says that David no longer has any friends in the class. The kids actually call him a bully. My son says that David slapped him in the back and then puched him in the face. He then proceeded to kick another child in the face and hit a few more children. There is something not right with David.
Then a certain resource teacher came and took David out of the classroom for a while. I don't know what that's about. The resource teacher usually deals with kids who have some sort of disability I believe. I'm thinking maybe he has ADD/ADHD who knows?
David also gets frustrated when doing school work. He burst out crying because he didn't understand how to do the work that was requested of him in class.
I really think that David should be suspended for a few days but that's just me.
David is a very small kid my son says he weight 49 pounds. I'm suprised he's not scared to pick on other kids that are bigger than him My son is a foot taller and weighs over 20 pounds more.
At that age size is not that big a deal. If David is out of control, he's out of control. I think David should be suspended as well, but if he is constantly out of control and hitting other children then it is unlikely that the school will do anything about him.
I think Hopes idea of a letter is a good one. Schools do take things more seriously when they are written down. I also think that if your child gets another injury you should call the police to the school. Something needs to happen to cause the school to take some action. If he is hitting the kids in his class on a daily basis it needs to be stopped.
My son says that David no longer has any friends in the class. The kids actually call him a bully. My son says that David slapped him in the back and then puched him in the face. He then proceeded to kick another child in the face and hit a few more children. There is something not right with David.
Then a certain resource teacher came and took David out of the classroom for a while. I don't know what that's about. The resource teacher usually deals with kids who have some sort of disability I believe. I'm thinking maybe he has ADD/ADHD who knows?
David also gets frustrated when doing school work. He burst out crying because he didn't understand how to do the work that was requested of him in class.
I really think that David should be suspended for a few days but that's just me.
David is a very small kid my son says he weight 49 pounds. I'm suprised he's not scared to pick on other kids that are bigger than him My son is a foot taller and weighs over 20 pounds more.
Actually sounds like it is more in the spectrum of autism to me, we have had several kids in several of my kids classes that acted that way and they had one form or another of autism
It doesn't matter what it is though, hitting other children is inappropriate and if it has been going on for awhile it should have been dealt with before it escalated to this point.
I think turning into a raving lunatic is over to the top. I do understand though that that will be the immediate reaction of some, but that doesn't do much to help the situation. Kids hit each other. Some kids are bullies. It's going to happen.
One good thing that Lisa can take from this situation is that her child is not being singled out and hit because of his appearance or other attributes. He just happens to be in class with a child who has anger problems. Once that is determined, then it's up to the school to address that situation.
If the situation repeats itself, I would contact the parents of the other children who were hit and schedule a group meeting with the principal and teacher and tell them you will not tolerate your children being victimized by this boy.
If the kid's parents are of the "boys will be boys, teach your sissy son to stop whining" type then you have a problem because any intervention by the school will fall on deaf ears and the parents will claim they are victims of a school that refuses to accept the fact that kids will be kids and hit each other.
Sorry that your kid was punched. That has to be horrible to see.
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