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Old 11-17-2010, 11:22 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:24 PM
 
Location: NE Oklahoma
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One thing I didn't see is Dad. What does Dad think about Mom putting fingernail polish and make-up on the son? I can't imagine most Dads would be all happy with it to be honest with you. I can assure you my husband wouldn't want ANY of it..but it would be ok more with a girl than a boy.
As for this poor child in the interview, I think he is growing up and will be confused as to what a boy is expected to like and do. What happens when he shows up at school with lip gloss and base on?
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Yikes! These moms are very scary living vicariously through their kids. As the hosts pointed out these boys are not doing it because they want to no matter how much the moms try to convince everyone of that, they are doing it because mommy dearest wants them to. These kids should be allowed to be little boys, not mannequins. They should be riding bikes and climbing trees, as should the little girls, not getting facials and manicures. Good point about the dads not being particularly visible. I am not a pageant fan in any way, shape, or form. Judging people primarily on the way they look goes against everything I believe in.
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:32 PM
 
Location: maryland
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One thing I didn't see is Dad. What does Dad think about Mom putting fingernail polish and make-up on the son? I can't imagine most Dads would be all happy with it to be honest with you. I can assure you my husband wouldn't want ANY of it..but it would be ok more with a girl than a boy.
As for this poor child in the interview, I think he is growing up and will be confused as to what a boy is expected to like and do. What happens when he shows up at school with lip gloss and base on?

LOL...so what if he does?
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:41 PM
 
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I think beauty pageants for children are ridiculous. Neither boys nor girls need to be judged on their appearance.

I think that kids can dress up and play, but why should we have any formal mechanism for pageants. It's obscene.
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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As for this poor child in the interview, I think he is growing up and will be confused as to what a boy is expected to like and do.
Who cares what society expects a boy to like or do? I certainly didn't follow what society expected of a woman, and I'm quite happy with my life.

I can't watch the video at work, so I have no idea what was said--but if the little boy truly likes playing dress up and dancing around on stage, more power to mom and dad for letting him do it.

If mom is forcing him against his will, that's a problem--but that's a problem for a little boy OR a little girl.
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Old 11-17-2010, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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Personally, I find pageants creepy. For anyone. That goes double for young children.
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Old 11-17-2010, 01:22 PM
 
Location: NE Oklahoma
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LOL...so what if he does?

The reality of it is schools in general and kids are cruel. At 6 he will be made fun of for wearing make-up and lip gloss. Any normal person knows this. It would be NICE if we could pat him on the head and say..."That is so sweet. Be your own little Princess if you want to be." Then Mom or Dad will have to be down at the school because everyone is making fun of him. Do you explain to your son that no, none of the other boys wear make-up? They are all mean bully's because they are making fun of you for it too. You are ok... do what you want to do.
Within reason you can do that. Girls take shop classes and boys take home-economics. But I think there are limits to what you should encourage, and YES they are encouraging him, outside the norm.
Actually I don't think they are even encouraging him. I don't think that kid ever had a CHOICE. He has been doing this stuff from BIRTH. They programmed him. Intentionally teaching a boy to act and be like a girl or vise versa isn't a good thing. It creates problems for them that are unnecessary, psychologically and especially in school. BUT it is easier for a girl to wear jeans and boots and a cowboy hat and be all tomboy than it is for a boy to wear make-up and nail polish. Yeah someone might call her a **** but probably not much. They WILL make fun of him, guaranteed.
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Old 11-17-2010, 01:49 PM
 
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The Ass't Deputy Secretary for Safe & Drug-Free Schools, Kevin Jennings wrote the foreward to a book called, "Que*ring Elementary Education." The book talks about the need to obliterate the differences between genders. For example, elementary teachers addressing the class with gender labels;i.e., "Good Morning Boys and Girls..." or lining up the students by gender, "Boys line up here. Girls, here," is considered something to be eliminated. The goal being to erase the line of difference between male and female. I think these male pagents and the "My Princess Boy" book/video are good examples of what many people think is a great way to accomplish these goals.

Then there is the video which high school students are being forced to watch as part of a Tolerance/AntiBullying Campaign around the country.It is called "StraightLaced: How Popular Pressures Around Gender and Sexuality Are Confining American Teens." The video features Gays, Cross Dressers, Bi-Sexuals, & Questioning Youth. Appears to be encouraging students to not "confine" themselves to their birth gender or sexual orientation.

Then, of course the popular T.V. show, "Glee" revolves around the sexual escapades of teenagers and adults with a variety of sexual orientations. The cast is presented to look incredibly wholesome and have beautiful singing voices so they look like people most kids and even their parents would want to emulate. There is even a Fox Contest now that will award a $5,000 prize to the high school that performs one of the Glee songs (such as "Anyway You Want It...That's the Way You Need It") and gets the most votes by high school students. Brilliant strategy to get kids to watch the show and get the message they are sending.

Looks like there is a massive campaign (directed primarily at youth) underway to open up the gates to an anything goes attitude toward sex and gender identification. Well, come to think of it, the title of the "Glee" contest, "Glee for All" sounds like "Free for All!" Wow! Not sure all Americans are in favor of this - yet. We'll see in a generation or two to come.
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Old 11-17-2010, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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I wonder if future generations of young women will lament the disappearance of 'manly men'.

Boys and girls are different from one another. People need to acknowledge that and stop making lab rats out of kids to enforce their perverted notions of 'equality'.
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