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Old 11-30-2010, 06:48 AM
 
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6 people on my facebook just got engaged over the weekend! All from Ohio. Yikes!
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Old 12-01-2010, 05:50 PM
 
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6 people on my facebook just got engaged over the weekend! All from Ohio. Yikes!

Bet there all long term engaments with no set date
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Old 12-01-2010, 09:03 PM
 
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Bet there all long term engaments with no set date
One of them had brides maid dressed picked out the next day. Talk about wanting a wedding but not a marriage.
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Old 12-02-2010, 12:20 AM
 
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I haven't read the thread, but I want to say that I'm glad I lived with men prior to marriage.

It doesn't matter how well you know a person, you don't really know them until you live with them. I should know since I've lived with four men in my life.

"Living together" prevented me from making marriage mistakes and helped me make the smart marriage choice in my husband, whom I lived with for 5 years before marrying.

I would advise my childrent to "live together" before committing to marriage. But I would also advise them to not have children until marriage too.
I assume that you are aware that people who live together before marriage are more likely to divorce than those who do not live together first. It's all about the level of commitment.

I can't imagine CHOOSING to have kids without a husband. It's hard enough WITH one. Who the heck wants to do all that work alone?!
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Old 12-02-2010, 12:41 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Young adults these days are more infantalized and entitled than they were 100 years ago. They can barely manage their laundry at 22...marriage is out of the question.

People live longer. Careers take longer to establish. Women are pursuing their own dreams that don't involve being shackled to a home, man, and children at an early age (some want to see the world, experience living in different places, etc).

Frankly, I don't think most people (myself included) really know who they are and the direction they want their lives to take until their mid to late twenties. There are exceptions that fall on either side of that age range, but if couples are going to make it in this crazy, complicated world, they're better off armed with as much ammo as possible.
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Old 12-02-2010, 04:24 AM
 
Location: maryland
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I assume that you are aware that people who live together before marriage are more likely to divorce than those who do not live together first. It's all about the level of commitment.

I can't imagine CHOOSING to have kids without a husband. It's hard enough WITH one. Who the heck wants to do all that work alone?!
Yes but is that really a good thing? How many are staying together because religious ideals say not to divorce even though they are unhappy? Often most people who don't believe in moving in together before divorce are the same group who don't believe in sex before marriage as well.
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Old 12-02-2010, 08:57 AM
 
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Young adults these days are more infantalized and entitled than they were 100 years ago. They can barely manage their laundry at 22...marriage is out of the question.

People live longer. Careers take longer to establish. Women are pursuing their own dreams that don't involve being shackled to a home, man, and children at an early age (some want to see the world, experience living in different places, etc).

Frankly, I don't think most people (myself included) really know who they are and the direction they want their lives to take until their mid to late twenties. There are exceptions that fall on either side of that age range, but if couples are going to make it in this crazy, complicated world, they're better off armed with as much ammo as possible.
I think you are absolutely right that this is the current attitude held by many younger people towards marriage.

I don't really understand it, though; you can certainly move around and see the world while being married! I think many young people are also understanding marriage through an outdated lens, and see marriage as the same thing as settling down in the stereotypical house with the white picket fence and having kids. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that lifestyle, either, but marriage in itself doesn't lead to that life, and marriage doesn't mean that you can't also do fun things and have adventures.

On the flip side, I think that overly romanticized view is also leading to problems for some people who do get married. It puts the focus on a perceived lifestyle, and for good or for bad, getting married isn't going to make life into some modified Martha Stewart fantasy.
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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Now-a-days there are so many more things for young people to do and see that they put marriage a little longer down the road....

I always told my sons all through High School, do it now......have fun....because once you get married, then have children, a good job, the things that you wanted to do, somehow just don't happen...and life goes on....

I wanted my sons to be able to say they did a lot of stuff, (like I should have)...........So when one of my sons wanted to go to a school in London, while as a parent the thought is horrifying. I said yes.........go out there and see what the world has to offer.......

but he changed his mind......goodie !!!
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Old 12-02-2010, 05:55 PM
 
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People live longer. Careers take longer to establish. Women are pursuing their own dreams that don't involve being shackled to a home, man, and children at an early age (some want to see the world, experience living in different places, etc).
I guess I have to agree. To make it these day kids have to go to college and establish careers which pushes things back at least 5 years. Plus the freedom is awsome for young folks. They come and go as they please, enjoy sex with no commitments (unless they choose to commit to one person), and arent tied down to a house and family while they are young and energenic.
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Old 12-04-2010, 06:13 AM
 
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Maybe I am seeing it all wrong. But It seems like its there way of steering clear of commitment to each other. Giving them an easy out to just leave if it gets boring or lifestyle gets cramped. Or even cause it allows them an open door to cheat without worry of consequences of divorce and divorce settlement.
Actually, there are a lot of married folks who do all of the above. Some divorce; others look the other way. I know quite a few people (acquaintances, friends of friends, etc.) who are still in their 20s and are already divorced.
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