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I don't see how ear piercing (you didn't do it yourself did you NJ?) and tattooing at home are on the same level. And one certainly wouldn't lop off a foreskin with a kitchen knife in the living room. (those of us who frequent the chat thread notwithstanding ).
If you (generic you) just sat and stuck your kid with a needle over and over for ten minutes, would that not constitute abuse? Doing it for the sake of a tattoo is actually worse.
Ear piercing and circumcision have been ingrained in our cultures for centuries, and are perfectly socially acceptable for children, but tattooing (in the western world) is not, and I don't think it should start.
Parents don't have a right to frivolously alter their kids' bodies without their consent, and that includes botox, lip enhancement, Prince Alberts, nipple piercings, or any other thing a parent thinks is necessary that the child may not.
Tattoos are the most personal thing you can do yourself. Nobody in their right mind should think it's ok to tattoo someone else, including their own children.
No we didn't pierce their ears ourselves. Our pediatrician actually did it as part of the services they offer. We wanted to get it done and figured the pediatricians office was a better choice than the mall.
I'm still stuck on whether or not this is "abuse" or just stupidity. I can see both sides. I don't agree with it being done, but I am also sure there are people who don't agree with choices I would make either, like ear piercing or circumcision, which some view as being just as much of a mutilation for "frivolous" reasons as this tattoo.
Try playing devil's advocate.
I think it was stupid to tattoo the child, but it wasn't abuse.
I can see from your side how pierced ears is just this minor thing and it will heal over.
But I can extend that to most other piercings, like in the eyebrow or nose.
Tattoos are also just as valid in a society that accepts the cultural traditions, new and old, of others, individuals and family.
Objectively seen, tattoos are no different.
Aaah! My home state, makes me so proud. The laws here are so strict for inking and piercing minors that in most counties tattoo shops are not even allowed to pierce kids ears. The bored teenage girl in the mall jewellery store can do it, but the professional piercer can't. Makes sense, huh?
I think not doing it is. Different strokes and all that jazz...
That said, tattooing a child is not even in the same ball park. This is just stupid and I need to reiterate my dream of chlorine for the gene pool.
Not that I disagree with you in general, but I can see the angle others are taking which is why I'm a bit torn. I did circumcize my son, but it isn't a far stretch to see it as nothing more than genital mutilation. Which, unlike a tattoo, is permanent and irreversible. Also, it isn't a common practice at all outside of the United States.
I'll never forget the German exchange program I was part of in high school. The German guys were all like, "is it true...you know...you're all *snip* *snip* down there?" When we said yeah, they all had a look of pain and agony on their faces. When we asked is it true you aren't and they said yes, we were all like, "ewww, that's nasty".
Ah, the joys of cultural exchange among teenages, lol. It was all cool though, cause some of the German girls were pretty interested in seeing what that was all about....the American girls, not so much.
Not that I disagree with you in general, but I can see the angle others are taking which is why I'm a bit torn. I did circumcize my son, but it isn't a far stretch to see it as nothing more than genital mutilation. Which, unlike a tattoo, is permanent and irreversible. Also, it isn't a common practice at all outside of the United States.
I'll never forget the German exchange program I was part of in high school. The German guys were all like, "is it true...you know...you're all *snip* *snip* down there?" When we said yeah, they all had a look of pain and agony on their faces. When we asked is it true you aren't and they said yes, we were all like, "ewww, that's nasty".
Ah, the joys of cultural exchange among teenages, lol. It was all cool though, cause some of the German girls were pretty interested in seeing what that was all about....the American girls, not so much.
Circumcision is also a health concern. I had zero interest in taking the risk of my sons having to do it later in life so I did it right away. I also fully admit it is a cosmetic thing to me as well as not having to have my sons go through any ewwww like you just explained.
Tatoos are not a health concern. Ever. I get what you are saying and I don't think the guy should be hauled to jail for abuse but it doesn't make him less of a moron.
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