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Old 04-28-2011, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Texas
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What isn't being taken into account here is the fact that he is in New Hampshire. Does anyone here know how twisted and forest-lined roads are in New Hampshire?

First of all, not even the interstate is straight and most of their roads are VERY curvy.
Secondly, at 3a.m. all of the nocturnal animals are roaming, and often in the roads.
Thirdly, IT WAS DARK and visibility was practically non-existant.

Moose cross all roads. Deer cross all roads. Bear cross all roads, as do oppossums, skunks, porcupines, raccoons, almost all exclusively at night. Have any of you had an animal run or jump out into the road in front of you in the dark of night? Even at 40 or 50mph it's dangerous.

I do not understand what kind of idiot would think it's safer to drive over 100 miles an hour than not and I do not understand what kind of idiot judge would render the speeding ticket void. The guy WAS speeding. There was no denying that.

Had the judge's head been on straight, he would have ruled on the fact that others on the road would have been put in harm's way as was the wife and unborn baby.

We lived quite a distance away from any hospital. When my mother went into labor, my father called the police. They met him halfway and put my mother in the police car. My brother was born in the back seat. Police are trained for emergencies.

Given those conditions, that guy must be a helluva good driver!
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Old 04-28-2011, 02:53 PM
 
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Given those conditions, that guy must be a helluva good driver!
Just lucky.
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Old 04-28-2011, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Australia
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Driving 102 puts other people in danger, not just the woman and child. That's stupid to dismiss the ticket. She was in labor, it's not like her limbs were falling off and she was dying in the car!
Driving at any speed is dangerous in a way.
20, 30, 40 , 55 , 60, 100, 200
You can still die.

For some reason we think that speed below some magical number (usually written on a sign) is perfectly safe and any speed above that is unquestionably dangerous.

The fact that this guy did not die, did not crash, did not injure someone, did not run over any animals, did not .....
does not seem to get considered.

Yet at the same time, we can have someone driving below the posted speed limit, run over a small animal, fall asleep at the wheel, crash into a tree and bounce off and kill a family of nuns.
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Old 04-28-2011, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Well actually no.
Given that he was in court, meant that he actually survived.
As the reason he was in court was for a speeding ticket and not for crashing into someone then it means he did not have an accident.

Amazing isn't it. That someone can travel at that amazing speed of 102mph and survive.
maybe these messages about speed and danger are .... well... not scientifically based.

I had thought that as soon as a person traveled faster than a galloping horse that they would die but apparently not.
Yeah, luck had nothing to do with it.
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Old 04-28-2011, 05:42 PM
 
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This guy was driving 102 on the HWY at 3am. It wasn't like he doing 102mph down some residential side street. I do 80 on hwy on a regular basis. I don't see how an extra 20mph is somehow reckless in an emergency.

If it was in the middle of rush hour I could understand. But it was in the middle of the night when I would think there would be little traffic. And he called the 911 to say he was driving to the hospital and a poice escort met him and let him to the hospital.

Where is the problem again? I hope all of you who are against it never have to get someone to a hospital quickly.
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Liberal Coast
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This guy was driving 102 on the HWY at 3am. It wasn't like he doing 102mph down some residential side street. I do 80 on hwy on a regular basis. I don't see how an extra 20mph is somehow reckless in an emergency.

If it was in the middle of rush hour I could understand. But it was in the middle of the night when I would think there would be little traffic. And he called the 911 to say he was driving to the hospital and a poice escort met him and let him to the hospital.

Where is the problem again? I hope all of you who are against it never have to get someone to a hospital quickly.
Not necessarily. I've been in almost bumper to bumper traffic at 3 A.M., but this area has a bit different traffic than other areas.
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Old 04-29-2011, 08:32 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Are people really using the fact that he didn't crash as justification that it must be safe? If someone jumps out of a 5 story building and walks away without injuries does that mean it is safe?

I am curious though. Let's say this story was very different. And the person did crash (we certainly know there are crappy drivers out there). What would people be saying?
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Old 04-29-2011, 09:10 PM
 
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The fact is, he broke the law knowingly and willingly and the judge let him off. What makes it ok for him to do over 100mph when it's not ok for someone else to do over 40 or 50?

There was a high school senior here who died in a car crash just two weeks ago. He was all alone in the middle of the night speeding on one of our local roads. This is Vermont. Roads are dangerous. This young man was born and raised here so he knew that road very well. Didn't make any difference at all.
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Old 04-30-2011, 07:00 AM
 
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Are people really using the fact that he didn't crash as justification that it must be safe? If someone jumps out of a 5 story building and walks away without injuries does that mean it is safe?

I am curious though. Let's say this story was very different. And the person did crash (we certainly know there are crappy drivers out there). What would people be saying?
I'm not saying it was completley safe but 102mph is not that fast on a highway. I have had police officers fly by me on a highway probably doing those speeds. Why would a police officer be allowed to speed in an emergency but a regular person is not? Are they not putting lives in danger by speeding and running lights etc....

By punishing people for these kinds of things you make people less likely to help in an emergency. So if I tackle someone who starts shooting up a place and I disarm him should I be punished for putting peoples lives in danger?
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Old 04-30-2011, 12:34 PM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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Chalk it up to reacting to an emergency. Nobody was hurt and I doubt the man will do it again; it's not like his wife will spontaneously have more babies. Let him off with a warning.

It's okay to be merciful ... someday you may wish for leniency too.
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