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A the play gound little girls don't run around in tight little outfits, made up to look like teenage girls, shaking their hips in your face, do they!!!
Parents who put their daughters through crap like this are just disgusting, plain and simple. They are too ugly themselves so they have to exploit the only thing that's pretty in their life; Just to make themselves look good.
You obviously have never been to a school football game where cheerleaders wear tiny outfits and dance, have you? Why doesn't anyone say anything about them? Why always bash pageant girls?
Would you say the same thing to parents who are probably too out of shape or ugly as you say to be cheer captain, star football player, etc? If anything these are proud parents. Nevermind the fact that a lot of pageant moms were former pageant contestants themselves, that couldn't be a reason could it?
Well, they certainly aren't comparable to what some of the other posters are saying. As stated earlier, I have participated in competitive athletics for 30-some years, as a player, coach, and now as a parent. There are benefits to participating in sports, and the parents the OP is referring to when it comes to sports are few and far between. I think it's sad that athletics are vilified, especially when children have issues like Type 2 Diabetes and recesses and PE are being cut.
Three of my four have played Little League and GYSA soccer. One of those three went on to AAU and school-based athletics, and was on a traveling team. My experience hasn't been that the obnoxious, uber-competitive parents are the norm, but I don't know that I'd go for "few and far between", either. There were almost always at least two teams per league that my kids hated playing because the kids played dirty and the parents were insane. I know the commissioners threatened to call police to eject a dad at one of ds's soccer games (he and his kid left without police escort). And last fall, one of the local peewee football games in my area ended in arrests. I'm guessing the people involved in both situations probably had not been demure, polite, golf-clapping parents prior to that.
Are those people the norm? No, of course not. But every parent I know whose kid plays sports has similar stories.
I don't think "athletics are vilified", and I don't think the presence of psycho parents makes that claim. I do think that, in the grand scheme of things, knowledge is more important than mad kicking skills, and that playing bunchball on the local league is not so much a need as a suburban rite of passage. There are more choices than just Suburban Soccer Star or Weird Fat Kid.
Originally Posted by cremebrulee Just interested to know, what do you think of parents who exploit they're kids like say...for instance, Eden Woods?
I personally think it's very sad, and parents who do this to they're kids, need to be investigated...also, I also feel the same way about sports and the Olympics for children....
What's your take on this?
I don't care for the pageants or the message that they send to the children, and the way the parents seem so overly invested in them is creepy, for sure.
However, I'm also terrified by the sentiment that these parents need to be "investigated". Investigated by whom, and for what? I don't want to live in a world where parents are "investigated" because we find what they are doing distasteful. Quite frankly, that idea makes me shudder even more than the tarted up kids.
I don't care for the pageants or the message that they send to the children, and the way the parents seem so overly invested in them is creepy, for sure.
However, I'm also terrified by the sentiment that these parents need to be "investigated". Investigated by whom, and for what? I don't want to live in a world where parents are "investigated" because we find what they are doing distasteful. Quite frankly, that idea makes me shudder even more than the tarted up kids.
allow me to explain...
we were discussing this at work, and a gal told a story where she watched one, that was so disturbing...the mother was holding the child and yelling at her little girl, and she whirled around, hitting the little girls head. well, the girl was next to go on, and she went on, crying and screaming...when the little girl came off stage, the mother said, "oh that was worth while" or something, never even considered the fact that she had hurt this child, the child was not only upset, but crying, cuz her head hurt...
to me, Child Services should in fact investigate these mothers...to me, this is abusive...
allow me to explain...
we were discussing this at work, and a gal told a story where she watched one, that was so disturbing...the mother was holding the child and yelling at her little girl, and she whirled around, hitting the little girls head. well, the girl was next to go on, and she went on, crying and screaming...when the little girl came off stage, the mother said, "oh that was worth while" or something, never even considered the fact that she had hurt this child, the child was not only upset, but crying, cuz her head hurt...
to me, Child Services should in fact investigate these mothers...to me, this is abusive...
Ok, I see where you're coming from. But I think there's a few factors worth considering, the first one being that this is a TV show, and what you think you see is not necessarily the whole story. They can (and frequently do) edit such scenes as to show the situation in it's worst possible light.
Child services is for children who are actually abused and in horrible situations at home. I would hope that if someone at a pageant were to witness serious abusive behavior on behalf of the parents, that they would intervene in some fashion. I still don't think we should be witch hunting parents because they choose to parent differently than us. Child services is a last resort serious call to make, with the potential to ruin childrens' lives.
It makes me very uncomfortable to bandy that alternative around, based on a reality show that is in all likelihood not real at all.
I don't think it's wise to plaster thick make-up all over a toddler's face or spray "tanning solution" all over their bodies etc...How can this be good for their skin?...Kids feel a "pressure to perform" and a "pressure to be the best" at these pageants that can cause a lot of stress!...Sports also invoke this same kind of pressure and it can even be worse if a child feels the "weight" of the "whole team" on his or her shoulders. No one can dare make a mistake because this could lead to public humiliation...People may say that it's no "big deal" but to many it really is a "big deal" if a player "screws up" and causes the team to lose.
I don't see how they can call them beauty pagents. The kids have fake tans, fake hair, fake nails, fake eyelashes and enough makeup to choke a horse. Oh not to mention the fake teeth. YOu can't even tell what they actually look like.
I watched parts of 2 different episodes and couldn't decide whether to cuss or cry. It made me sick to my stomach, seeing the misery of some of them, the crappy spoiled attitudes of some of them...and that's just the kids. "Beauty" pageants? How can you use the title of "beauty" when they have fake teeth, fake tans, fake hair. Imagine what the clouds of hairspray are doing to those poor babies' lungs!!
I watched parts of 2 different episodes and couldn't decide whether to cuss or cry. It made me sick to my stomach, seeing the misery of some of them, the crappy spoiled attitudes of some of them...and that's just the kids. "Beauty" pageants? How can you use the title of "beauty" when they have fake teeth, fake tans, fake hair. Imagine what the clouds of hairspray are doing to those poor babies' lungs!!
There definitely is a lot of "fake" on the shows. I wonder how the little girls feel about themselves when they aren't wearing tons of make-up and false eyelashes and wigs and "flippers" in their mouth etc...Do they feel "bland" and "plain" in their natural state? This is something that women in general have always had to "struggle with" in real life. We've been programmed to believe that we need "enhancers" to be considered beautiful and worthwhile and valuable etc....I was anorexic for 9 years when I was younger trying to look like "Twiggy!" Thank goodness I "woke up" and came to my senses before I ended up dead...It's sad and scary to start little girls off on this "path" when they are still babies! Our kids are not "dolls!" They are not our "toys" and "playthings!"
There definitely is a lot of "fake" on the shows. I wonder how the little girls feel about themselves when they aren't wearing tons of make-up and false eyelashes and wigs and "flippers" in their mouth etc...Do they feel "bland" and "plain" in their natural state? This is something that women in general have always had to "struggle with" in real life. We've been programmed to believe that we need "enhancers" to be considered beautiful and worthwhile and valuable etc....I was anorexic for 9 years when I was younger trying to look like "Twiggy!" Thank goodness I "woke up" and came to my senses before I ended up dead...It's sad and scary to start little girls off on this "path" when they are still babies! Our kids are not "dolls!" They are not our "toys" and "playthings!"
I went through a phase like that in high school. I was a "big" girl, not fat, just large and muscular, from 4th through 8th grade. I trimmed down like crazy during the summer between 8th & 9th grade. That got me a tremendous amount of positive attention from the boys. Aha! Less weight, more attention. I spent a little over a year, half starving myself and running like someone was chasing me, in order to get thinner. I also realized that makeup garnered me a whole lot of positive attention, "I never REALIZED how pretty you are!!"
Yeah, isn't that cool. It's funny, you know, how society blasts females with the idea that "being pretty and thin" are vital to being acceptable. It's really sad, isn't it. I mean, to send these girls out there with the mindset of "I'm just not good enough the way God made me. I need to look better!"
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Why doesn't anyone say anything about them? Why always bash pageant girls?
