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Old 05-26-2012, 06:11 PM
 
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How this turned into "safe ride" I know not. I've stated my convictions. Once you start to ask dumb questions and expect them to be answered is where I pull the buggy in the driveway. I am whatever you perceive me to be, dear

Moving on............


Ok, I'll bring up Safe Ride "properly" to compare it to having condoms accessible at school:

Safe Ride

This is an example of the program, run through Red Cross and advertised at high schools.

How do you feel about this?
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Old 05-26-2012, 06:12 PM
 
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I think this horse died too.
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Old 05-26-2012, 06:18 PM
 
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What would be interesting is a comparison of teen pregnancy rates at this school, a nice longitudinal study, of three to five years, with a small sample set. I am willing to bet cash, that the pregnancy rate is the same or higher.

Condoms are not the answer to ending teen pregnancy. Condoms have been available for decades, and yet teens and adults get pregnant regardless. Provide a bowlfull of condoms in every classroom.

Education, to all children regarding the consequnces of sex. Programs about self esteem, future planning...
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Old 05-26-2012, 06:59 PM
 
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What would be interesting is a comparison of teen pregnancy rates at this school, a nice longitudinal study, of three to five years, with a small sample set. I am willing to bet cash, that the pregnancy rate is the same or higher.

Condoms are not the answer to ending teen pregnancy. Condoms have been available for decades, and yet teens and adults get pregnant regardless. Provide a bowlfull of condoms in every classroom.

Education, to all children regarding the consequnces of sex. Programs about self esteem, future planning...
These are at risk teens and there are only 30 or less of them each year. Hardly a sample representing teens everywhere.

Again you have continued to dodge the question. This is a program where parents can opt out. So why do you get to decide that no one can be in this program?
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Old 05-26-2012, 07:05 PM
 
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What would be interesting is a comparison of teen pregnancy rates at this school, a nice longitudinal study, of three to five years, with a small sample set. I am willing to bet cash, that the pregnancy rate is the same or higher.

Condoms are not the answer to ending teen pregnancy. Condoms have been available for decades, and yet teens and adults get pregnant regardless. Provide a bowlfull of condoms in every classroom.

Education, to all children regarding the consequnces of sex. Programs about self esteem, future planning...
Condoms have been available for decades...and teen pregnancy has been going down for decades too. There was a study done in The American Journal for Public Health that showed the reduction in teen pregnancy is due primarily to condom use. 86% of the teen surveyed were having sex but using condoms. Only 14% were practicing abstinence.

In states where BC is harder to obtain and abstinence is the focus of sex ed, teen pregnancy rates are much higher. You can educate and tell teens to wait all you want, but if you want them to actually avoid pregnancy, you give them condoms. The teens who weren't going to have sex anyway are not affected. The ones who are going to have sex no matter are safer. It's that simple.

Every barrier you put in place between teens and BC increases the risk of pregnancy. The more you demystify sex and the more accessible you make BC, the more likely teens are to use it.
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Old 05-26-2012, 07:25 PM
 
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That is your choice to not provide them. That is different from a school.

If you are done with a topic, feel free to stop responding.
Well, now that I have your permission and all........

and then your next post asks me a question? lol!!
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Old 05-26-2012, 07:28 PM
 
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I think this horse died too.
Thanks for your observation.
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Old 05-26-2012, 07:29 PM
 
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Well, now that I have your permission and all........

and then your next post asks me a question? lol!!

Yes, would you like to answer the questions pertaining to the thread topic or continue with your off topic nonsense?
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Old 05-26-2012, 07:31 PM
 
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Yes, would you like to answer the questions pertaining to the thread topic or continue with your off topic nonsense?
"safe ride" is the thread topic? musta slept on that one

forgive me, I do know how to ignore...........watch, and...........wait for it, wait for it...................
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Old 05-26-2012, 07:38 PM
 
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"safe ride" is the thread topic? musta slept on that one

forgive me, I do know how to ignore...........watch, and...........wait for it, wait for it...................


The thread topic is accessible condoms at school.

My side of the argument is that schools do a lot of preventative type of education with students - teaching about drunk driving, nutrition, etc and giving students the tools to deal with these issues.

As such, Safe Ride is a very good analogy for accessible contraceptives at school. I asked your opinion on Safe Ride as it relates to the thread topic because both programs (Safe Ride and accessible contraceptives) are very similar to each other in a number of ways.
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