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Old 07-30-2012, 08:32 AM
 
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It may not be typical or a good thing, but neither is it unheard of, or pathological, when a 6yo is the most accessible person to the older child. It's more of an act of opportunity.
Ummm yeah it's pretty much both of those. It would be normal if 2 kids of around the same age were doing this as experimentation. It's not normal for a near teen however to have desire to act out sexually with his 6 year old sister. While you can't say it's do to him receiving abuse from someone else for sure *though given what this lady told us it seems that way*, there is a good chance he is a pedophile if there is no abuse. Trying to defend it i'm sorry is a bit creepy.

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Old 07-30-2012, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Actually, it is pathological. There is an imbalance of power between a 12yo and 6yo.
There are a lot of imbalances of power in the world. That does not make everything associated with them pathological.
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Old 07-30-2012, 11:14 AM
 
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Ummm yeah it's pretty much both of those. It would be normal if 2 kids of around the same age were doing this as experimentation. It's not normal for a near teen however to have desire to act out sexually with his 6 year old sister. While you can't say it's do to him receiving abuse from someone else for sure *though given what this lady told us it seems that way*, there is a good chance he is a pedophile if there is no abuse. Trying to defend it i'm sorry is a bit creepy.
As to the bolded part, the OP mainly believes he has to have been abused because she has absorbed some unrealistic cultural ideas of what 12-year-olds normally know and act like. Call it creepy all day, but a 12 year old boy with poor impulse control and an opportunity will stick it in a hole in the ground if he can, that's just reality.
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:03 PM
 
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As to the bolded part, the OP mainly believes he has to have been abused because she has absorbed some unrealistic cultural ideas of what 12-year-olds normally know and act like. Call it creepy all day, but a 12 year old boy with poor impulse control and an opportunity will stick it in a hole in the ground if he can, that's just reality.
A 12 year old boy might do dumb things but a 12 year old boy on the norm does not practice sex games his sister that is half he age. Boys like girls are interested in their own peers, and on occasion some a bit older. However a small minority do exhibit those desires, either through genetics or abuse. The only one with unrealistic ideas on what 12 year old boys seem to do and don't is you. I'm sorry but this is the last post i'm directing at you because the thought of a grown man defending the molestation of a child as 'normal' gives me the shivers.
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:43 PM
 
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Call it creepy all day.
Okay: It's creepy.

Try and spin it any way you like for whatever agenda you have but societal norms are in place for a reason: they work. There is a reason people fight child prostitution and marrying off girls when they are 11. A child is in no way capable of handling the ramifications of having sex. And every single child on this planet deserves to be protected from adults who think they are.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:29 PM
 
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Okay: It's creepy.

Try and spin it any way you like for whatever agenda you have but societal norms are in place for a reason: they work. There is a reason people fight child prostitution and marrying off girls when they are 11. A child is in no way capable of handling the ramifications of having sex. And every single child on this planet deserves to be protected from adults who think they are.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:36 PM
 
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Okay: It's creepy.

Try and spin it any way you like for whatever agenda you have but societal norms are in place for a reason: they work. There is a reason people fight child prostitution and marrying off girls when they are 11. A child is in no way capable of handling the ramifications of having sex. And every single child on this planet deserves to be protected from adults who think they are.
*begins slow clap*
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:59 AM
 
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Okay: It's creepy.

Try and spin it any way you like for whatever agenda you have but societal norms are in place for a reason: they work. There is a reason people fight child prostitution and marrying off girls when they are 11. A child is in no way capable of handling the ramifications of having sex. And every single child on this planet deserves to be protected from adults who think they are.
Absolutely!
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:24 AM
 
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Try and spin it any way you like for whatever agenda you have but societal norms are in place for a reason: they work.
By this statement, one would suspect that you apparently don't believe there is such a thing as a dysfunctional societal norm. but I'm sure when it's phrased in that way, you can think of some exceptions?

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There is a reason people fight child prostitution and marrying off girls when they are 11.
There are entire societies that don't "fight" that, in fact some of them practice it. Their societal norms are firmly in place; do they "work"? And if they work, whatever you may mean by working, are they justified?
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:27 AM
 
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A 12 year old boy might do dumb things but a 12 year old boy on the norm does not practice sex games his sister that is half he age.
"On the norm" he would have adequate supervision to prevent it.

An interesting old page: http://web.archive.org/web/200907231...wisconsin.html

And an excellent article by clinical therapists:

Antisexuality and Child Sexual Abuse
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