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Old 08-22-2012, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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It's NOT working, if it hasn't worked in 17 years. No way should an almost adult child need a spanking, and if they do, you should have tried another method a long, long time ago.
In that case, applying the same logic would discredit the other method.

 
Old 08-22-2012, 12:57 PM
 
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Yes. The problem being the expectation that a 17yo should just take it when someone hits them.

The 17-year-olds I've known in my life who were still subject to corporal punishment did not interpret it the way you do.
 
Old 08-22-2012, 12:57 PM
 
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In that case, applying the same logic would discredit the other method.

What other method? Of achieving what?
 
Old 08-22-2012, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pa
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Why, if that's what works best in a particular home?
I agree with the other post, spanking a 17 year old child is absolutely ridiculous, if spanking didn't work for the past 17 years, why would you continue?
No 17 year old is going to let you spank them.
 
Old 08-22-2012, 12:58 PM
 
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What other method? Of achieving what?
IDK, ask Anna, I was quoting her.
 
Old 08-22-2012, 01:01 PM
 
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I agree with the other post, spanking a 17 year old child is absolutely ridiculous, if spanking didn't work for the past 17 years, why would you continue?
No 17 year old is going to let you spank them.
I have known it to happen, first of all, and second of all the notion that if something is continued, it didn't work is preposterous. "I ate yesterday; I'm hungry again today so obviously eating doesn't work. Guess I'll try gnawing on some rawhide."
 
Old 08-22-2012, 01:03 PM
 
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Why, if that's what works best in a particular home?
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It's NOT working, if it hasn't worked in 17 years. No way should an almost adult child need a spanking, and if they do, you should have tried another method a long, long time ago.
What Anna said. But then again there are families where Dad spanks Mom for not listening, so I know there are other views out there. Personally, I can't visualize a realistic scenario where a 17-year-old should be spanked--and I have an almost 15-year-old who sometimes acts like a 2-year-old.
 
Old 08-22-2012, 01:06 PM
 
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What Anna said
...can be refuted simply by substituting any other punishment for spanking in her sentence. The reasoning is just as valid for all of them.
 
Old 08-22-2012, 01:07 PM
 
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...can be refuted simply by substituting any other punishment for spanking. It works equally well for all of them.
Fair point. If all past failures are equal, then, why choose the one that involves hitting?
 
Old 08-22-2012, 01:07 PM
 
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...can be refuted simply by substituting any other punishment for spanking in her sentence. The reasoning is just as valid for all of them.

Which is why punishment systems are so f'ing stupid.
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