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Old 04-18-2013, 05:48 AM
 
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It happened when college prices skyrocketed.

For example, when my MIL went to college (she is in her mid-60s now) she went to Lehman College in NY... for free. It was free to everyone who had a certain GPA.

When I went to college (1997), a private college for engineering, in NYC, was 27k a year, including room and board. I am still paying student loans, have about 45K left.

Today, that same college is now $49,500 a year.

Who wants to burden their child with THAT much debt if they can help out? I don't even know if you can borrow that much money without taking out high interest rate private loans. Like Lacerta said, educated parents are all too aware of how much things like college will cost in the future (it's ridiculous today!) so they have to limit the amount of children they have in order to help them when the time comes.
But the correlation is between more kids and higher college prices. The US has the highest college costs and highest fertility rates in the developed world.

In Germany college is free and they're well below replacement.
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Old 04-18-2013, 06:18 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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we have been influenced by TV, media, etc...., the perfect family is small and has a pet. that is how it is promoted. we have swallowed the hook, line, and sinker
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Old 04-18-2013, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Summerville, SC
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But the correlation is between more kids and higher college prices. The US has the highest college costs and highest fertility rates in the developed world.

In Germany college is free and they're well below replacement.
Assuming we do, I believe I've also read that "educated" parents are not the ones having many kids (1-2), simply because they can't afford college for them all otherwise. I don't think the people who are having lots of children are the ones who are sending their kids to college.
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Old 04-18-2013, 07:50 AM
 
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If someone would take care of my offspring's college education, I would have a huge family.

But such are the times, and I am not about to bring kids into this world that I cannot afford to raise, and to me that includes undergrad with no loans.
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Old 04-18-2013, 08:05 AM
 
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But the correlation is between more kids and higher college prices. The US has the highest college costs and highest fertility rates in the developed world.

In Germany college is free and they're well below replacement.
Huh, I thought that was due to immigration.
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Assuming we do, I believe I've also read that "educated" parents are not the ones having many kids (1-2), simply because they can't afford college for them all otherwise. I don't think the people who are having lots of children are the ones who are sending their kids to college.
This is correct. College educated parents, who will send their own kids to college, have the lowest replacement rates. High fertility is inversely correlated with level of education and SES.

Anyhow, we're only having one. The expense to have/raise a child the way we want to raise our child is exorbitant. Plus, we both have careers and there's only so much time in the day.
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Old 04-18-2013, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Women would just wear out. My grandfather's sister died after 10 babies back to back...her kidneys gave out.

My grandmother was pregnant every 2-3 years from 17 to menopause. As soon as one was weaned she would get pregnant with another.

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I can't imagine being able to walk again after 14 pregnancies. You'd pretty much have to have every pregnancy consecutively, I feel like your hips might quit on you....or your innards would just one day slip on out and you'd be like well there goes my uterus on the sidewalk.
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:27 AM
 
Location: La Mesa Aka The Table
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Women's liberation movement is the reason.
As women started to join the work force in the 60's /70's the average women became less submissive.
Less Submissive = less sex.
Women also outnumber the number of men in college 4to1.Women are also smart enough to know,spiting out 10 kids in this day and age is not a good ideal if you want a long career
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Wherever life takes me.
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Women would just wear out. My grandfather's sister died after 10 babies back to back...her kidneys gave out.

My grandmother was pregnant every 2-3 years from 17 to menopause. As soon as one was weaned she would get pregnant with another.
Not to mention you don't bounce back after 10 kids.

My reasons for not having more than 2, is a) money 2) I just got skinny, it would kill me to wreck it 7) I'd like to have a life and retirement after kids.

I'd like to be able to send one off to college and then the second one with in a year or two of that. So I have my mid to late 40s while my body is still "young" to go out and do stuff.

Call me selfish but its my life and I can control it.
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Old 04-18-2013, 04:11 PM
 
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Because parents are no longer allowed to discipline kids (sorry, time-out doesn't count) and, consequently, modern children are often little monsters that no one wants to be around for 18 years.
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Old 04-18-2013, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Dallas area, Texas
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As others have said, birth control.
Secondary, is the growth of urban living and non-agrarian lives. How to afford many children when you live in the city?
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