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Old 07-12-2013, 08:42 AM
 
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*becomes a theist* ("There is a God!")
What's so surprising?
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Old 07-12-2013, 08:51 AM
 
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Inefficient nonsense. If both parents engage in, and become proficient in, all tasks related to the upbringing of a child - without recourse to these archaic notions of gender roles to which you appear to subscribe - then the issue simple is non-existent.
That's why people in the past were much more balanced and less troubled than today.
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Old 07-12-2013, 08:54 AM
 
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Layman's terms, monumentus, layman's terms!

JayN, if the men are the only ones getting regular practice disciplining the child, and the women are the only ones getting practice nurturing the child...

what happens when/if one of the parents die, walk out, are drafted by the military, etc? The poor child will be left with a parent who knows exactly one-half of what the child needs to develop normally.

Of course, "a good beating" kind of tells me where the child's development ranks on your list of priorities, so perhaps I am wasting my time on you altogether...

How is discipline not nurturing? The notion that
a. beatings have anything to do with discipline and
b. that discipline is somehow a bad thing

is troubling.
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:02 AM
 
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How is discipline not nurturing? The notion that
a. beatings have anything to do with discipline and
b. that discipline is somehow a bad thing

is troubling.
I'd say discipline is the best thing you can give to your child. Obviously when they are young you don't give them discipline through words.
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:26 AM
 
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If being too affectionate is bad then my toddler is going to be an absolute mess when he grows up. Time will tell I guess. I'll report back in 15 years and let everyone know.

-signed, super affectionate dad
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:32 AM
 
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I'd say discipline is the best thing you can give to your child. Obviously when they are young you don't give them discipline through words.
Meh. It is important. But it is only one of many things that a child needs.
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:33 AM
 
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If being too affectionate is bad then my toddler is going to be an absolute mess when he grows up. Time will tell I guess. I'll report back in 15 years and let everyone know.

-signed, super affectionate dad
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:33 AM
 
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That's why people in the past were much more balanced and less troubled than today.
Clearly the social sciences are not your forte. Any state of the world today comapred to any other point in history is due to a massive confluence of factors from economics - through culture - through education to much much more.

To arbitrarily pick one single subject and sweepingly declare that it alone explains such notions achieves nothing more than to make you look truely silly. Your posts that are nothing but a smiley above hold more useful content than that nonsense.

And that is before I point out that you have not even evidenced that there IS significant changes in how "balanced" and "troubles" people have been over time. Which just adds a nail to the coffin of your point which at this time is now more nails than lid.

The idea of gender roles is - as I said - outdated and archaic. And aside from that nonsense sentence from you above I see nothing on offer from you to suggest it is worth maintaining.
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:48 AM
 
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I don't follow
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:50 AM
 
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I don't follow
Doesn't that kid have a mother to take care of that?
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