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Old 07-24-2013, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Is there no middle ground?
Seriously every question I asked the kid he followed up with a ma'am.

I'm not a ma'am. I'm 23, not someone's grandmother.

My point being, I wasn't much older than the kid and it was annoying, I don't ma'am people my own age.
It is customary in the area you chose to move to. Get over it.

 
Old 07-24-2013, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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It is customary in the area you chose to move to. Get over it.
Yeah, it's not meant to be an insult. The intent is respect.

Just because YOU associate it with grandmas doesn't mean everyone else does.
 
Old 07-24-2013, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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Most people here use Miss or Mrs. to address a woman, not ma'am. Ma'am is isn't necessarily an insult but it is associated with advanced age. Sir is used but mainly in customer service or when addressing someone in a position of authority. My son will learn the norms for this area.
 
Old 07-24-2013, 04:45 PM
 
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Originally Posted by txtqueen View Post
Is there no middle ground?
Seriously every question I asked the kid he followed up with a ma'am.

I'm not a ma'am. I'm 23, not someone's grandmother.

My point being, I wasn't much older than the kid and it was annoying, I don't ma'am people my own age.
Sheesh, this one is easy. Call him sir.
 
Old 07-24-2013, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Liberal Coast
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Originally Posted by no kudzu View Post
I'm curious what culture it is where calling a woman ma'am is considered rude?

I also remember being taught never to refer to anybody as a man or woman but to use the words gentleman and lady. different strokes....
Out here many women will get very offended if called ma'am because they think it means "old lady."
 
Old 07-24-2013, 05:11 PM
 
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Originally Posted by txtqueen View Post
Is there no middle ground?
Seriously every question I asked the kid he followed up with a ma'am.

I'm not a ma'am. I'm 23, not someone's grandmother.

My point being, I wasn't much older than the kid and it was annoying, I don't ma'am people my own age.
But if you have moved to an area where it is common you can't expect people to change their customs to suit you.
 
Old 07-24-2013, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Dallas area, Texas
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Originally Posted by txtqueen View Post
Is there no middle ground?
Seriously every question I asked the kid he followed up with a ma'am.

I'm not a ma'am. I'm 23, not someone's grandmother.

My point being, I wasn't much older than the kid and it was annoying, I don't ma'am people my own age.
I "Ma'am" 23 year olds and 18 year olds and 77 year olds, and I am 54. It ISN'T about age, but respecting someone.

I think that "Ma'am" IS the middle ground in manners.

ma'am - definition of ma'am by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
Used as a form of polite address for a woman.

Merriam-Webster's Learner's Dictionary
US — used to politely speak to a woman who you do not know

ma'am - definition. American English definition of ma'am by Macmillan Dictionary
AMERICAN used for talking politely to a woman whose name you do not know
 
Old 07-24-2013, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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I "Ma'am" 23 year olds and 18 year olds and 77 year olds, and I am 54. It ISN'T about age, but respecting someone.

I think that "Ma'am" IS the middle ground in manners.
Perhaps where you live, but certainly not everywhere. In many parts of the country, one can be considered good mannered and respectful even without using ma'am or sir.
 
Old 07-24-2013, 09:34 PM
 
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For me, the best approach is to model manners that are pertinent to the given situation.

I don't call ladies of a certain age in Hollywood who've obviously had work done in an effort to hold on to their youth m'am. I do say "excuse me Sir" when asking directions of the be hatted and well dressed elderly gentleman from the neighborhood in Philly.

I call my kid's teachers Ms or Mr or Coach in front of my kid even after I know them well enough to use their first names. Most of my friends are perfectly happy with first names for my child, but our 95 year old neighbor is always Miss Renee (at our insistence, not hers).

If you want to be polite, and we do, then I reckon you've really got to adjust your manners to your environment. One size does not fit all. But it does take awareness of your surroundings, and the willingness to not be stubborn.
 
Old 07-24-2013, 11:36 PM
 
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Rather than being offended by being called something that makes you feel old, you can take a different tact.

These could work so long as they are said with a smile!

"My Dad is a sir, call me Bob"

"Save the ma'am for when my hair turns blue, you can call me Miss Russell"

It could work....
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