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Well - it would be nice - but it looks like the rich liberal elite - like Obamas kids - will have the best education and health care and to heck with anyone else.
OH COME OFF IT. That's a load of *******s.
Liberal, conservative, independent, green, etc if you have money your children have access to better education than the majority of the country.
I think there is something to be said for educating oneself outside of school as well. Just because you want to learn something doesn't mean the school should provide the teacher and materials to learn it.
If you are on the technology track but want to learn about theater design because you think its fun and interesting, great. But you should do it on your own time, either in the form of an extracurricular or taking extra time in your schooling to do so. Example, if you are going to take a 3 credit course on theater design, that will be in addition to your tech track classes not a replacement for one of them.
I don't understand that? All "tracks" and I have never heard of a "technology track" in high school, have room for electives.
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Apprenticeships should be revived.
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I would love to see that happen!
Many districts have vo-tech programs. That said, I have a huge issue with having kids decide their life's work at 14-15 years old.
Simple. Do you think that all children born in America should be given the same quality education?
That was the idea curve all through the fifties and sixties: that access to education would help in a major way to address upward mobility.
Then the elites found that people were really catching up and pushing aside their kids out of Harvard and Yale, so it had to stop. Hence 1980. Make it so expensive that you're back to the elites again. It worked.
Simple. Do you think that all children born in America should be given the same quality education?
No. Because not all kids are capable of using the same quality education. Notice, you didn't say "what quality" of education either. If you try to give all kids the same quality education, you either provide the quality needed by the top third and leave out the bottom two thirds. Or you teach to the middle and leave out both ends. Or, you do as most education through high school in this country and drag everyone down toward a lower and lower bottom.
This is the unpleasant truth we need to learn to deal with in America -- not all kids are the same. We need to learn to accept tracking. We need to increase the number of Vo-Tec schools and encourage kids with those talents to go there rather than college. It is not "elitism" but reality to educate kids as best fits them rather than the false argument hidden within your question.
I think all children should have to the right to have access to a minimum standard *quality* education. Anything beyond that, I feel is up to the kid and the parents. For example, for a gifted child, I dont s/he has a right to a gifted program. If the school has one - great. But I don't think it is a right.
I don't understand that? All "tracks" and I have never heard of a "technology track" in high school, have room for electives.
If there is room for electives that's one thing but I do think there is a superfluous use of time in public schools.
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Many districts have vo-tech programs. That said, I have a huge issue with having kids decide their life's work at 14-15 years old.
Vo-tech programs are amazing and they should be supported more. In my area, the vo-tech schools are treated as a repository for kids with behavior problems.
What is the difference in a kid deciding he wants to fix computers for a living at age 15 and a kid deciding he wants to teach kids at age 18? By the time most people are in their mid-late teens they know what type of work they are drawn to.
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That was kind of the whole idea
