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Yep, and it's a shame how this all evolved. I've heard women a few years older than me (maybe 70 now) saying they had to quit teaching when they started to "show" as it was considered risque for pg women to appear in public. Then the women's movement came along. Women wanted the "right" to work until their water broke. All of a sudden, businesses were more than happy to go along with that.
Shameful indeed. The growth of Feminism and the quasi-slave mentality of US workers is a real chicken-and-egg dilemma. Women begging to be be wage slaves and drudges like the men. I don't get it. Never have. Was it supposed to benefit children? Was it just about money? Or did women think men had it so soft? If the latter, surely they've been disabused of that notion...
To me, Finland is a reality-driven society, with the well-being of its citizens trumping politics (sexual and otherwise). The US keeps on fighting imaginary battles, and everyone is losing. Especially the winners.
Shameful indeed. The growth of Feminism and the quasi-slave mentality of US workers is a real chicken-and-egg dilemma. Women begging to be be wage slaves and drudges like the men. I don't get it. Never have. Was it supposed to benefit children? Was it just about money? Or did women think men had it so soft? If the latter, surely they've been disabused of that notion...
To me, Finland is a reality-driven society, with the well-being of its citizens trumping politics (sexual and otherwise). The US keeps on fighting imaginary battles, and everyone is losing. Especially the winners.
It was just as silly to not allow pregnant women to work after "showing", as if that represented something obscene.
I said nothing snarky, you seem to be. Free clothing giveaways do nothing to increase the health of mothers and babies that access to low cost or no cost health care can't. On the other hand, that box just might increase the attraction of having a baby for an unwed teen.
Oh please tell me you don't believe that teens have babies for free things???!
Do you understand how the baby box works in Finland?
Oh please tell me you don't believe that teens have babies for free things???!
Do you understand how the baby box works in Finland?
I understand completely how and why it works, which is because Finland leans towards a socialist society when it comes to public policy.
Teens sometimes have babies so that somebody loves them. A box full of freebies would just make it all that more attractive to a girl getting pregnant for the wrong reasons.
If you have the answers as to how why this should be done in the US, I urge you to run for public office and put it on your platform. I leave this thread, knowing it never will, could, or should happen here.
It also has a bunch of stuff in it. Read the link in the OP. They're very popular in Finland.
Yes, I am well aware of the baby boxes in Finland and what it comes with. I was responding to a poster who said to just give a box and not the $200 worth of stuff to save taxpayer's money
Yep, and it's a shame how this all evolved. I've heard women a few years older than me (maybe 70 now) saying they had to quit teaching when they started to "show" as it was considered risque for pg women to appear in public. Then the women's movement came along. Women wanted the "right" to work until their water broke. All of a sudden, businesses were more than happy to go along with that.
For my American friends it has simply been that with only 12 (or 6) weeks off, starting one week early means leaving your 11 (or five week) old baby to go back to work. For my Australian friends starting a month early means leaving an eleven month old to go to work. Those are two entirely different situations.
I said nothing snarky, you seem to be. Free clothing giveaways do nothing to increase the health of mothers and babies that access to low cost or no cost health care can't. On the other hand, that box just might increase the attraction of having a baby for an unwed teen.
As I said earlier, the box itself seems like an entirely doable, and not very costly plan to hand out at prenatal clinics to those that want one.
Access is meaningless if the mother chooses not to go. The whole point of the program is to get pregnant women to GO to the doctor during the first four months of pregnancy for a prenatal checkup.
The women will get that box, during that appointment. They won't get it otherwise. It's an incentive program that is working for them.
Access is meaningless if the mother chooses not to go. The whole point of the program is to get pregnant women to GO to the doctor during the first four months of pregnancy for a prenatal checkup.
The women will get that box, during that appointment. They won't get it otherwise. It's an incentive program that is working for them.
And what could be saved later in medical bills and children that have preventable issuesis well worth the cost along.
Some would rather cut off their nose to spite their face than help some one that needs it.
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