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Old 09-20-2015, 08:28 PM
 
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Are you sure about those numbers?
Not saying you're wrong, I've honestly never looked into the sugar content of carrot juice. But sites I'm looking at don't jive with your numbers.
All the ones on fitness calorie counts vary. I can't remember the exact one, but it was for raw carrot juiced at home. This is from odwalla and is 100% carrot juice.
100% Carrot Juice | Odwalla

It's 15.2 ounces and 22 grams of sugar. So that's 5 1/2 teaspoons of sugar. It has 26 g of carbs. That may be where the other site got the 26 g of sugar since carbs and sugars are so closely linked.
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Old 09-20-2015, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Have you checked to see what kind of filtering system they use?
Maybe keep a pitcher or gallon sized bottle of water in the fridge with lemon and orange slices in it just for him?
Or keep lemon wedges handy so he can squeeze his own lemon water? Sometimes having a hand in the prep can entice kids into eating (or drinking) things they might not normally have much interest in.
I was going to suggest this. I add lemon to my water, plus I use a brita filter. I hate the taste of most water and love this.
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Old 09-20-2015, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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All the ones on fitness calorie counts vary. I can't remember the exact one, but it was for raw carrot juiced at home. This is from odwalla and is 100% carrot juice.
100% Carrot Juice | Odwalla

It's 15.2 ounces and 22 grams of sugar. So that's 5 1/2 teaspoons of sugar. It has 26 g of carbs. That may be where the other site got the 26 g of sugar since carbs and sugars are so closely linked.
So I'm definitely getting lost here... I see what you're saying about the Odwalla, no sugar added or anything. I also see articles about how all sugar is processed the same way.

But then I see things like the glycemic index, where carrot juice is 68, and Coca Cola is 218:
Glycemic Load Table

Are we going down an "eggs are good for you this week and bad for you next week" path?

It'd be great to get this settled once and for all, since now you have me wondering if I'm spiking my kid with sugar.
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Old 09-21-2015, 07:58 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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Not to derail the carrot convo but I bought the britta water pitcher yesterday...made a big fuss over it being for him and he has been drinking water since! He says he loves the taste. LOL what ever works.
Thumbs up, I hope the path you're on stays smooth!
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Old 09-21-2015, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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So I'm definitely getting lost here... I see what you're saying about the Odwalla, no sugar added or anything. I also see articles about how all sugar is processed the same way.

But then I see things like the glycemic index, where carrot juice is 68, and Coca Cola is 218:
Glycemic Load Table

Are we going down an "eggs are good for you this week and bad for you next week" path?

It'd be great to get this settled once and for all, since now you have me wondering if I'm spiking my kid with sugar.


The chart you linked shows a standard portion of carrot juice as 6 oz and of Coke as 12 oz. So yes, the coke has a little higher glycemic load but not as different if portion sizes are standardized and it would be 68 vs. 109 for the same size portion.

But none of that changes the fact that carrots have a lot of sugar. Naturally occurring fructose is still sugar.
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Old 09-22-2015, 05:14 PM
 
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Hey just a shout out who repped me and said ""Daddy thinks we should give him that stuff". So...Daddy's number one priority ISN'T his son's well-being? Bummer..."

1) thanks for the rep point
2) Daddy doesn't think there is anything wrong with the artificial stuff after talking to a doctor friend. Nice try.
3) People who rep with snarky comments...SMH
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Old 09-25-2015, 03:13 PM
 
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So I'm definitely getting lost here... I see what you're saying about the Odwalla, no sugar added or anything. I also see articles about how all sugar is processed the same way.

But then I see things like the glycemic index, where carrot juice is 68, and Coca Cola is 218:
Glycemic Load Table

Are we going down an "eggs are good for you this week and bad for you next week" path?

It'd be great to get this settled once and for all, since now you have me wondering if I'm spiking my kid with sugar.
When you eat a sugary food (and carrots rank pretty high for a vegetable in terms of their sugar load)the amount of fiber that is present also influences the speed of digestion and thus the speed with which the sugar enters the bloodstream aka the glycemic index. Fruits and vegetable are made of plant cells which must be broken down before the sugar can be absorbed. Since this is a process that takes time the sugar in foods with large amount of natural fiber in the cell walls is released more slowly.

Coke, OTOH, will absorb very quickly and spike blood sugar levels.

Anyone who tells you sugar is sugar and the number of grams per serving is all that "matters" is just plain old wrong.
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Old 09-25-2015, 03:23 PM
 
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Sugar from carrots are bad? What's your source on that?

Also, to reiterate what I was talking about earlier:
1. The OP should run juicing or smoothies past their nutritionist, not just us.
2. I never said they should be meal replacements, they need fiber.
3. The less fruits in the juice, the better. For someone new to juicing and smoothies, they're not going to dig a cucumber-kale-lemon-ginger smoothie, so they need to start from somewhere.
The OP is trying to help her son lose weight. When losing weight it is best to keep blood sugar as stable as possible. While juices from whole fruits/vegetables have more nutrition in them than other sweet foods, they still provoke the same blood sugar response that inhibits weight loss.

So it isn't that carrots are bad or that the sugar in carrots is bad. The sugar in carrot juice raise blood sugar and that can make it difficult to lose weight. For someone who does not have a weight problem I am sure carrot juice is a refreshing, nutritious beverage. But someone trying to lose weight should just avoid it (and apple juice, and other sweet juices).
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Old 09-25-2015, 05:48 PM
 
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How's it going OP? Is everything progressing nicely?
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Old 09-26-2015, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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My 10 year old son is overweight. Some of its genes, some medication...but I know there were some things we could do to do better with his diet and exercise. The pediatrician referred us to a nutritionist.

So I met with her today. She said we are doing pretty good but gave me 3 steps to work on:
1) less then 2 hours of screen time (he has been getting up early so I have been letting him play for extra time)
2) structured dinner time (I am fairly fly by the seat of my pants at dinner)
3) no sweetened drinks (usually it's water all day and I do cap it off at one non-water drink a day for days we do eat out or get a snack, she said 0 sweet drinks except for rare special occasions).

I am 100% on board. She was great. And I needed the feedback and she gave great advice for our situation. Here in the problem. My son has sensory sensitivities, very tied to taste and smell. He hates the taste of our tap water. He is picky about the taste of bottled water and he will like one brand then I get a new case and he hates it then. I don't know if he is messing with my mind or he is just that sensitive that he can taste slight variations.

My son likes the sugar free fruit punch kook-aide liquid you can add to water. And he will go through that stuff pretty fast. He also has adhd and I don't like the chemicals in that stuff so I stopped buying it.

This is the fight. I want to buckle down and just enforce water until he gets used to it. I did it, got off diet coke and got use to water and love it now. Hubby talked to a doc friend (who is a specialist nothing to do with nutrition) who said "sure that stuff is fine". So he is fighting with me that we should give in and let him have the sugar free chemical stuff.

The nutritionist said I am going to have to deal with some fussing for a while as we make these changes. And yes, day one, lots of fussing. So I think this is one of those times to put or foot down. Daddy thinks we should give him that stuff.

Thoughts?
I also have sensory issues with smell and taste. I hardly ate anything as a kid and 2 of my kids have inherited my issues. So i really relate to this. (I have overcome a lot of it and my kids have had therapy that has helped some.) anyway, can you invest in a berky water filter? We have one and no only does it remove all chemicals like chlorine from your water, the water tastes really good and always the same! Also you could try letting him add a splash of lemon juice to his water. He'll probably get used to that taste quickly and it would add some flavor and nutriens.
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