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Israel tried that. Their kibbutzim in the 1920's were totally communal living. Parents were separated from their children and raised by professional nannies so the parents could work. The movement is about 100 years old now and they have learned a lot from their experiment. There were some positives (fewer children with strict separation policies died form malaria) and some negatives (psychological damage to children) but I think ultimately it was a failed experiment because they don't separate parents from children anymore.
If you're really interested in it from the child's perspective you can watch the documentary on Netflix, Inventing our Life. Here's the link on Amazon with a trailer. They interviewed many of the people who grew up in that system. It's pretty fascinating.
Israel tried that. Their kibbutzim in the 1920's were totally communal living. Parents were separated from their children and raised by professional nannies so the parents could work. The movement is about 100 years old now and they have learned a lot from their experiment. There were some positives (fewer children with strict separation policies died form malaria) and some negatives (psychological damage to children) but I think ultimately it was a failed experiment because they don't separate parents from children anymore.
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Yes, but the most positive thing that came out of it is that Israeli children are pretty independent and stable by the time they hit their teens and they don't have to deal with helicopter parents.
Yes, but the most positive thing that came out of it is that Israeli children are pretty independent and stable by the time they hit their teens and they don't have to deal with helicopter parents.
Yes, but this is true about Israelis that didn't grow up on a Kibbutz so it can't be the result of forced parental separation. It's more likely the result of a country that is forced to depend on one another for their survival.
Do you know of any kibbutzim that still practice forced separation?
Yes, but this is true about Israelis that didn't grow up on a Kibbutz so it can't be the result of forced parental separation. It's more likely the result of a country that is forced to depend on one another for their survival.
Do you know of any kibbutzim that still practice forced separation?
As far as I've seen they are subdivisions with a business park. They are pretty much Capitalist and not Socialist (except for the ones setup for tourists).
As to Israel itself it is still pretty much Socialist in relation to families, Children pretty much hang out with other children still and are not computer gaming centered like the US. The gov't sets up work days in such a way that certain days are family oriented. When I go out to dinner at someone's home it's usually a family type of event where there are double digit people there (much like how the US was in the 70's). I've been going to Israel for 50ish years and it hasn't changed that much.
An orphanage is where the parents are completely gone, not part of the children's daily lives. The scheme being discussed here is like day care, but day and night, with the parents visiting a lot. The two biggest problems with it are the cost and the lack of sufficient workers to give the kids the same quality of life they could get in a good family. But it's probably much better than leaving the kids alone to play video games all day and all night. Or to join gangs and learn how to shoot people for fun.
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Was thinking society would be better off if all kids were raised by pro orphanages with a bunch of kids, run by good program directors.
Then all kids would have an equal shot at life, there would be less abuse, more opportunity for talented kids born to **** parents.
Kids would have more friends, too, because they would have a bunch of other kids in their orphanage, and they would all get legit childhoods.
And ideally an orphanage would prepare kids for real life, like finding a job, rather than keeping them busy until they turned 18 to let them loose on the streets.
Take the rose colored sunglasses off, go visit Russia and see how well it works there. It doesn't.
This is one of the most ridiculous, naive, and uninformed posts I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot of ridiculous posts. Human interaction, including that between parent and child is very complex and is about more than meeting physical needs and opportunities for peer interaction. This would be a horrible, scary, dystopian scenario. (Actually, I think there have been some dystopian novels with premises such as this.)
Family interaction is important for developing community ties and a support system. Having known quite a few "troubled youth" in my life, I'd say comprehensive public pre-K education for at-risk children accompanied by support services provided directly to the family and observation would be a much better solution. Head Start does a little of that, but not enough.
Provide life skills classes to kids who don't know how to function - personal finance, menu planning, navigating health insurance, etc.
Oh yeah, also - lower the cost of college and trade schools, but not the standards for admission. Too many kids give up before they can ever seriously consider college because it just seems too daunting.
What parent, in their right mind, would want to act as a breeder for a government program?
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