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Napoleon is irrelevant to this conversation, and really to any conversation when used as it was used here. That one never ceases to not amuse me. I'm 6-1. by the way, so....
Perhaps you haven't read enough of that poster's (and those of lots of other young guys) to know that he's always taking pot shots at women in general, and "older " women in particular. They interject digs about a women's appearances, fertility, and "market value" at any opportunity and when it is entirely irrelevant. When he began with his "it's completely normal for men to be with much younger women" shpiel, I knew where he was headed. My parenthetical comment did not come out of nowhere.
I know lots of older parents. They are happy as clams. If that's what they want, and they plan for their children's future, how is it your business?
The bottom line is, we can't set a cut off date for when people should and should not be having kids. Nature pretty much does that for women, but men....heck, they can get their 20 year old mistress knocked up.
So we send the cops to get them when they hit an age that the OP chooses to sterilize them? Come on.
Celebs sure want to make it everyones biz. Why would it be in the news, otherwise.
Personally, if they can take care of the children, more power to them.
Perhaps you haven't read enough of that poster's (and those of lots of other young guys) to know that he's always taking pot shots at women in general, and "older " women in particular. They interject digs about a women's appearances, fertility, and "market value" at any opportunity and when it is entirely irrelevant. When he began with his "it's completely normal for men to be with much younger women" shpiel, I knew where he was headed. My parenthetical comment did not come out of nowhere.
Those comments about women's "market value" totally suck. I agree with you and I couldn't agree more. However, the term "napoleon complex" generally refers to a short man who is over compensating for his lack of height. My objection is that tall men and short men are a$$holes, but when short men are a$$holes we have a special, demeaning term for it. I think a$$hole works in all cases, and it doesn't libel an entire group of people based on silly negative stereotypes that don't apply to most of them.
Now if you use "napoleon complex" to nail people with delusions of grandeur, I'm right there with you. The whole stilted way some of these guys write and I assume talk is really self important and pretentious, probably in an effort to give their sad little story some weight.
I know lots of older parents. They are happy as clams. If that's what they want, and they plan for their children's future, how is it your business?
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^^ This... None of my business and I could care less - so many worse problems in the world to "rail against." The dad is obviously financially set, maybe has close relationships with extended family who can serve parental/mentor roles and surround the child with love and support, maybe father will live to be 100... Who knows... My father died (at 35) when I was 7 years old... Nothing in life is assured.
Most of my friends/family are older parents. My husband was mid-40's when our last child was born, and we are indeed happy as clams. Got to spend many years before kids traveling around the world on many highly-physical adventures (while we were highly fit to do this - we did not put this off until retirement). We also had the time to start multiple businesses, so now our family/kids are financially set for life. We are wiser and patient as parents with no regrets - we've been around the block.
Those of you who think 40+ is too old to coach Little League etc. are mistaken as we have coached just about every sport for our kids, and some of the parent coaches are older than us. We keep ourselves healthy and fit. And our kids are incredibly happy and well-adjusted. Indeed we are all happy as clams.
Those comments about women's "market value" totally suck. I agree with you and I couldn't agree more. However, the term "napoleon complex" generally refers to a short man who is over compensating for his lack of height. My objection is that tall men and short men are a$$holes, but when short men are a$$holes we have a special, demeaning term for it. I think a$$hole works in all cases, and it doesn't libel an entire group of people based on silly negative stereotypes that don't apply to most of them.
You're right. I shouldn't have used that term. I usually try to avoid stooping to the rudeness that is the norm for some posters, but I'm only human.
^^ This... None of my business and I could care less - so many worse problems in the world to "rail against." The dad is obviously financially set, maybe has close relationships with extended family who can serve parental/mentor roles and surround the child with love and support, maybe father will live to be 100... Who knows... My father died (at 35) when I was 7 years old... Nothing in life is assured.
Most of my friends/family are older parents. My husband was mid-40's when our last child was born, and we are indeed happy as clams. Got to spend many years before kids traveling around the world on many highly-physical adventures (while we were highly fit to do this - we did not put this off until retirement). We also had the time to start multiple businesses, so now our family/kids are financially set for life. We are wiser and patient as parents with no regrets - we've been around the block.
Those of you who think 40+ is too old to coach Little League etc. are mistaken as we have coached just about every sport for our kids, and some of the parent coaches are older than us. We keep ourselves healthy and fit. And our kids are incredibly happy and well-adjusted. Indeed we are all happy as clams.
Ummm. Isn't the OP about a man who is 68, not in his 40s? Do you not acknowledge the difference?
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Those of you who think 40+ is too old to coach Little League etc. are mistaken as we have coached just about every sport for our kids, and some of the parent coaches are older than us. We keep ourselves healthy and fit. And our kids are incredibly happy and well-adjusted. Indeed we are all happy as clams.
Gah, a little math is in order. If they're 45 and coaching little league they had the kid in their 30s. I'm 44, it the kid was conceived today, I'd be 45. So we're talking mid 50s when driving to hockey at 6am, soccer, band practices, little league, etc etc etc, and 60s when paying for college and moving in and out of dorms, then late 60s when you're helping them get established with a career etc. I keep in pretty darn good shape and I plan on continuing that, but I see the toll it takes on my older brother and others I know in their late 40s and 50s trying to keep up with pre teen and teen boys. They're exhausted and it wears on them.
Is it doable? Yeah, to the determent of both the kid and yourself. I just don't think it is very responsible. Certainly not fair to the child, IMO.
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