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Old 12-08-2015, 07:44 AM
 
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Exactly. Yet they expect her to be on the honor roll and be heading off to an Ivy league university and a high paying job.

Don't complain about how the kid turns out when you've done a crappy job in raising them.
No. He expects her to do something close to her potential. He inherited damaged goods. It's not his obligation to prop up that mess one day beyond age 18.
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:44 AM
 
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You and your wife have a marital issue. I assume mom would like her out of the house and self supporting, too? Then the two of you need to get on the same page. Lay it out for the girl, help her to find work and a studio apartment within public transportation of work, and help her transition into it right after high school graduation in June. Girl is not ready for college right now.
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:57 AM
 
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Name one state that requires you place a spouse on a deed. One. Bueller? Bueller?
You and the other poster were right. I thought I had to be added to the deed after marriage. I mentioned it to my husband. He wanted to put me on the deed. Because...well he married me and is a good man.

Now we have bought two houses together, after being married and I had to be on both deeds, even though I am not on the mortgage.
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:59 AM
 
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OP are you sure she isn't making plans to get the hell out of there? I would be.
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Old 12-08-2015, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma USA
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Step.


I pay all the bills period. Wife doesn't work. She might buy some clothes here and there and school lunch from her savings but that's really it.


This child has been a underpeformer since the day I met her (2008)


He's supporting his new family and hasn't paid child support since probably 2006 (I didn't know my wife back then). My wife is too much of a chicken **** to take him back to court and do what is right and give me a break by getting this pathetic chump (who never sees his kid) to pay for anything.
I feel for you, and I am a woman.

You are feeling a tremendous amount of anger.

And your current situation is untenable.

Rather than thinking about looming, unpredictable, and downward spiralling life events, start yourself a plan of research, mental health relief, comradery, and looking at options. A multi-faceted approach.

Legal: Consult with a family law specialist attorney. Do it from the perspective of looking at legal options of A) Getting the soon-to-be-freeloading underachiever out of the house, ie hardcore eviction, or B) Divorce, ie property division, custody of you two joint children, support obligations (if any) to non-working wife.

Emotional: You are far from the first or only man who has found himself in this situation. You work your hindquarters off, then come home to what you are subsidizing: Housewife who probably doesn't appreciate how easy she has it, and aimless, underachieving quite-nearly-adult teen who is not yours, and small kids who are. You definitely need to get into individual, goal-oriented counselling. Emphasis on both the individual and the goal-oriented parts (for now at least).

You may have an employee advisory resource at work to guide you to a reputable therapist, or ask your physician for a reference.

Put yourself together a good network of buddies, work friends, older male relatives, old college friends -- guys you can unload on.

The attorney you consult should be able to tell you pretty cut and dried what it would cost you to point blank divorce the wife, get rid of the step daughter, and support and be a dad to your own kids.

Then, you can consider your options.

If you and your counsellor go on to tend to think that the wife might get on board with transitioning the stepdaughter on her way, then you and the wife could work with the counsellor to set up an ironclad 'evenly-yoked' plan of action.

If, however, you get it rolled around in your mind that wife is too "chicken***" to move towards getting the irresponsible stepdaughter away from your food trough, then you will have it clear in your mnd what you are facing, and an attorney lined up to represent you.

Play all of this very, very close to the vest. No big blow up, no threats.

Educate yourself about your options.

Decide which option to take

Move forward in a solid, well planned and well-thought out way, without anger, but with a goal of starting life over.

All of this may sound heartless and drastic to many readers.

OP is full of rage, and has lost all respect for his wife and stepdaughter.

Jails, prisons, and cemeteries are full of guys in his position who did nothing and let it all rock along... too long.
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Old 12-08-2015, 08:49 AM
 
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No. He expects her to do something close to her potential. He inherited damaged goods. It's not his obligation to prop up that mess one day beyond age 18.
No. He shouldn't have married a woman with a child if he didn't want to deal with the baggage that comes with it, and he shouldn't stay married to a woman who's daughter he feels nothing but utter contempt and disgust for. The mother is even more of a fool for subjecting her child to that.
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Old 12-08-2015, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma USA
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Another possible future for your step-daughter:

Pregnancy and you having another mouth to feed...
Pretty much the norm for low achieving teen girls who are not well-bonded with a good father figure.

And the sperm donor is typically not a Rhodes scholar or Eagle Scout.

OP is feeling rage and torment now, but his life can get exponentially worse. Quite easily, in the natural course of events.
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Old 12-08-2015, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Texas
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1. Does anyone know if I can legally remove her form my home when she's 18 and out of high school?

2. Can I remove her even if she's a full time student at community college? What about part time? What if I'm the one (stupid enough) paying the tuition?

3. If I were to allow her to stay, how can I enforce paying rent and kicking out if they continuously are late in payments or just stop paying period.

p.
1. Yes.

2. Yes. Yes. Why the hell would you do that?

3. You can't.
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Old 12-08-2015, 09:37 AM
 
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I can't believe all the people piling on this 17-year-old girl, calling her a freeloader and encouraging her stepfather to kick her out of the house when she turns 18.

He described her as "underperforming since the day [he] met her" when she was 10. 10! He determined a 10-year-old who was meeting her mom's boyfriend for the first time was an "underperformer." This girl's bio dad has skipped out on her and started a new family. Her mother married a guy who only begrudgingly offered a home and support to her pre-teen daughter. Since then she's had two new siblings come into the picture who undoubtedly get more of her mother's attention, even though the teen still needs her mother in this stressful situation.

His complaint against the girl is that she doesn't keep her room or her bathroom clean and she makes low grades. Who can blame her? She's been labeled underperforming since she was a small child and lives in a home where she's not wanted. It's hard to imagine anyone in that situation caring about grades or cleaning a room.

The OP's family has issues, but this 17-year-old girl hasn't caused them. Her behavior is a symptom of her circumstances. This girl needs love, compassion and encouragement and not the threat of being homeless hanging over her head.
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Old 12-08-2015, 09:45 AM
 
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I can't believe all the people piling on this 17-year-old girl, calling her a freeloader and encouraging her stepfather to kick her out of the house when she turns 18.

He described her as "underperforming since the day [he] met her" when she was 10. 10! He determined a 10-year-old who was meeting her mom's boyfriend for the first time was an "underperformer." This girl's bio dad has skipped out on her and started a new family. Her mother married a guy who only begrudgingly offered a home and support to her pre-teen daughter. Since then she's had two new siblings come into the picture who undoubtedly get more of her mother's attention, even though the teen still needs her mother in this stressful situation.

His complaint against the girl is that she doesn't keep her room or her bathroom clean and she makes low grades. Who can blame her? She's been labeled underperforming since she was a small child and lives in a home where she's not wanted. It's hard to imagine anyone in that situation caring about grades or cleaning a room.

The OP's family has issues, but this 17-year-old girl hasn't caused them. Her behavior is a symptom of her circumstances. This girl needs love, compassion and encouragement and not the threat of being homeless hanging over her head.
I agree. This is more of a case of underperforming adults ending up with what they deserve.
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