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When I was in college, about 20 years ago, part of sorority initiation was drinking to the point of having no idea what was going on and then being left in the middle of nowhere. I don't drink and didn't join a sorority, but was kind of a social outcast because of it. In my opinion, schools should shut down all Greek houses - they bring nothing good to students or student life.
I respectfully disagree. Greek Life has a lot to offer students and often gets unfairly judged.
Off the top of my head
-Leadership positions. There are few college organizations where a student will get the opportunity to manage a budget of $50,000, or speak in front of a room of 100+ members.
-Networking, especially in business and the political realm this is huge and can be highly beneficial for alumni/alumnae.
- How to present your self properly (this sounds silly as first but is absolutely true). Many fraternities require members to dress in full on blazers, dress shirts, ties, khakis, dress shoes etc. for weekly meetings and this definitely pays off by the time interviews come around and you need to look sharp.
-Socialization. For recruitment purposes and just interaction with other Greek members you will quickly overcome social anxiety and be able to engage in small talk with just about anyone.
-The potential for life long friendships. Even after graduation my best friends are people who I met through the Greek system.
-Philanthropy/community service, Greeks raise much more money for philanthropic causes on average than non-Greeks and total significantly more community service hours.
In terms of "hazing" if what is being done to new members is truly mentally or physically harmful than by all means kick the respective chapter of campus. However, this is not exclusively a Greek problem as we it also observe it with sports teams and even marching bands quite often but no one says "ban all athletics".
My daughter is a great person and has always made good grades and helped in the community but like many young people she can still make mistakes. When she went off to college she joined a sorority, I admit I was a bit apprehensive due to what kind of stuff can go on in these Greek houses whether they be sororities or fraternities but didn't say anything.
But my fears came to pass when last Saturday she ended up drinking so much she had to be taken to the hospital and get her stomach pumped. My husband and I drove over two hours to get to her when we found out. Thankfully she is okay but she is only 19 and I am furious she was allowed to drink. Neither my husband or I drink and she never drank in high school, we even warned her about it.
But I understand peer pressure especially when you are in something like a sorority, and as far as I know they are looking to find out who supplied the alcohol.
She is thankfully fine, and I am not saying she is completely innocent but the fact she was allowed access to it at all and no doubt peer pressured into it greatly bothers me. She has said she just made a mistake and doesn't want anyone to get in trouble and she said she doesn't know who supplied it.
Shouldn't this kind of stuff be closely monitored by the school?
Parents of college students are FOOLISH and IGNORANT regarding what goes on in most sororities and fraternities. I had the joy of seeing this first hand at a big ten university.
To be in one is certainly not some merit badge of honor and achievement.
This might seem like a big deal, but it really isn't. This could have happened whether or not she joined a sorority. My school didn't have Greek life and still had incidents like this.
It isn't unusual for a young adult to have an experience where they drink too much and get sick. She will learn and not drink so much next time around.
It is a poor life choice, but a venial sin nonetheless.
Greek houses are not necessarily located "on campus" though. Many (most?) are private property owned by the fraternal organization, at least in my experience.
What bugs me about the frats is that wild things happen, like some recruits trashed a motel in the mountains on some fraternity outing, then the National says "we don't condone that stuff"; lather, rinse repeat. They encourage that behavior, yet they hang the individual chapter out to dry when something bad happens. http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...pledges-arrest
First, I'm a bit leary concerning the veracity of this post for a couple of reasons: first time poster making outrageous demands/blaming. Second, I live in a college town. I know how many colleges work. It's summer. Even though a college might have summer classes, most sororities and fraternities are shut down in the summer months. Members find other living arrangements.
Many, if not most, colleges and universities do have rules regarding alcohol on campuses. Even with the rules they are not responsible for your daughter breaking those rules, illegally obtaining alcohol, or her underage drinking. She is an adult and she alone made the decision to over drink. Consider yourself lucky that getting her stomach pumped was all that happened. It could have been MUCH worse!
One of my kids tried pot when he was a teenager. It is illegal in our state. We didn't ask for his supplier or blame his school for exposing him to people that could supply pot. It was all on him.
+ acting like she doesn't have a choice in if her daughter is in it. Dues for greek life is quite costly and almost all kids in it the parents are covering the cost. A 19 year old cant usually afford 3k a semester for dues.
I doubt it if this will be the last time your teen daughter gets drunk but be thankful no college punks sexually assaulted her. All you can do is talk to her but its her life & she will do what she wants. If you are paying for her education then that's a different story. Good-luck.
Is this... is this satire? Your daughter is an ADULT. What's the sorority (composed of other people her age no less so not parental figures) supposed to do? Give her a curfew? I don't want to sound old man here since I'm only in my early 30s but when I was your daughter's age I was in Afghanistan, certainly taking care of myself and a lot more just fine thanks.
Who is paying her dues? They are not cheap. If my daughter had to get her stomach pumped at a party I was paying dues for, I wouldn't be paying them.
My oldest got someone else to pay his for a few semesters and then even he had enough. I don't approve of them,I don't care what people say about life long connections. Blah. I wouldn't pay 3K a semester for that nonsense
I agree...not too long ago there was an ad campaign that seemed very true - aimed primarily at college guys. It was - "Are you sure you're really making friends - or just drinking buddies?" It's easy to get clouded thinking when you're drinking all the time like is common in sororities and fraternities.
When parents are too strict at home, they can drive the prohibited activity underground where it cannot be monitored (no drinking at home, lecturing the child what not to do). The first time the young adult is out of the house with no "house rules", they go overboard.
Oh definitely; the most out of control kids in college were always the ones from strict homes.
Oh definitely; the most out of control kids in college were always the ones from strict homes.
Smh
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