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My moms coworker is having a baby. She's unmarried and works as a secretary. Probably makes 30k tops. While she is a bit older than me,28, it's not exactly the end of child bearing years. My mom is saying the Secretary is very happy about having a child. How?
You are curious, your mom is not happy . Hopefully Dad doesnt work there
Hello, Drawer Buddy! I slept in a drawer, too. I was told that was not that unusual in the early 1950s.
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Originally Posted by DewDropInn
My parents weren't poor. They just didn't have any excess money.
Well, my parents were poor. They had originally borrowed a crib from someone but then that person got pregnant a few months later and needed the crib back.
It's nauseatingly shallow to see how many people here equate giving their kids stuff with raising happy, healthy kids. In my experience much of that has incurred debt anyway, doubly stupid.
Ask anyone who works with kids in mental health, and they will answer having money is zero guarantee of happiness.
The other major point is the assumption that just because you choose not to buy your kids new cars or trendy clothes, then one must not have disposable income. That is ridiculous. Apparently it's only the minority who prefer to teach their kids value, used cars, prioritizing purchases. Our family spends far more on experiences than "stuff". Travel, concerts, music lessons, sport, etc.
Who has said this?
If you are referring to me, I was teased and bullied at school because I did not have those things. Made my formative years a living hell. These things are important to kids - and if you do not have them, there will be hell to pay.
And someone who can afford travel, concerts, and music lessons - well, low-income does not apply, does it?
It's nauseatingly shallow to see how many people here equate giving their kids stuff with raising happy, healthy kids. In my experience much of that has incurred debt anyway, doubly stupid.
Ask anyone who works with kids in mental health, and they will answer having money is zero guarantee of happiness.
The other major point is the assumption that just because you choose not to buy your kids new cars or trendy clothes, then one must not have disposable income. That is ridiculous. Apparently it's only the minority who prefer to teach their kids value, used cars, prioritizing purchases. Our family spends far more on experiences than "stuff". Travel, concerts, music lessons, sport, etc.
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Originally Posted by mochamajesty
Who has said this?
If you are referring to me, I was teased and bullied at school because I did not have those things. Made my formative years a living hell. These things are important to kids - and if you do not have them, there will be hell to pay.
And someone who can afford travel, concerts, and music lessons - well, low-income does not apply, does it?
I think that these two posters are comparing apples and oranges, probably because of growing up or raising their kids in different time periods and different communities.
There is a huge difference between not buying your child designer shirts & jeans and your child having to wear hand-me-down old, worn out & patched clothes every day.
And, as mochamajesty stated if you could afford "Travel, concerts, music lessons, sports" or even only one of those things then you are not really "low income".
I had a very happy childhood, we never realized that we were somewhat poor because most of our neighbors and friends were somewhat poor, too. But, even I remember a few things that would probably shock a few readers. The very first time that I ever had a meal in restaurant or diner was when I was 12 years old and it was because a friend was celebrating her birthday with her family and invited me to come. Yes, 12 years old. And, the next time wasn't until sometime after I was at least 16, and was working making my own money. We had plenty of food at home, as we lived on a farm, had cows & chickens, fruit trees & a vegetable garden but we certainly did not have money (or time) to waste by going out to eat.
Hmmm, how many 16 year olds have only had one restaurant, diner, fast food meal in their entire lives? Today, many families have at least one a week, if not multiple times a week. And, I am not an elderly person who remembers the depression or the austerity after WW II, I am only 64 years old.
If you are referring to me, I was teased and bullied at school because I did not have those things. Made my formative years a living hell. These things are important to kids - and if you do not have them, there will be hell to pay.
And someone who can afford travel, concerts, and music lessons - well, low-income does not apply, does it?
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Originally Posted by germaine2626
I think that these two posters are comparing apples and oranges, probably because of growing up or raising their kids in different time periods and different communities.
There is a huge difference between not buying your child designer shirts & jeans and your child having to wear hand-me-down old, worn out & patched clothes every day.
And, as mochamajesty stated if you could afford "Travel, concerts, music lessons, sports" or even only one of those things then you are not really "low income".
I had a very happy childhood, we never realized that we were somewhat poor because most of our neighbors and friends were somewhat poor, too. But, even I remember a few things that would probably shock a few readers. The very first time that I ever had a meal in restaurant or diner was when I was 12 years old and it was because a friend was celebrating her birthday with her family and invited me to come. Yes, 12 years old. And, the next time wasn't until sometime after I was at least 16, and was working making my own money. We had plenty of food at home, as we lived on a farm, had cows & chickens, fruit trees & a vegetable garden but we certainly did not have money (or time) to waste by going out to eat.
Hmmm, how many 16 year olds have only had one restaurant, diner, fast food meal in their entire lives? Today, many families have at least one a week, if not multiple times a week. And, I am not an elderly person who remembers the depression or the austerity after WW II, I am only 64 years old.
I was responding in general as multiple posters had mentioned clothes, cars, etc. My point was just that some people talk about wealth in terms of stuff, others don't.
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