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There's nothing sad about me. You're entitled to your opinions (and I really don't care about anyone's but mine), but compare children today, and I know this may be a broad brush (disrespectful, undisciplined, lazy, relatively promiscuous, spoiled, entitled) to those of us raised more than 30 years ago. I'm not suggesting that children be beaten to a pulp. Discipline should be appropriate to the offense and the child's age. I have nephews (different parents). They're parents did not spank them. . .and yes, they're brats, undisciplined, spoiled. . . .
Those are some rose-colored glasses you are wearing. Actually today's teens are better behaved than their parents were.
Today’s teens are among the best-behaved generation of teens we know of.
10.8 percent of teens today smoke cigarettes. Twenty years ago, 34.8 percent of high school students did.
Teenagers today are 46 percent less likely to binge drink than teenagers 20 years ago. In fact, they’re 21 percent less likely to have ever tried alcohol at all.
In 1996, 5.6 percent of teen girls had babies. Now, that number is 2.3.
There's nothing sad about me. You're entitled to your opinions (and I really don't care about anyone's but mine), but compare children today, and I know this may be a broad brush (disrespectful, undisciplined, lazy, relatively promiscuous, spoiled, entitled) to those of us raised more than 30 years ago. I'm not suggesting that children be beaten to a pulp. Discipline should be appropriate to the offense and the child's age. I have nephews (different parents). They're parents did not spank them. . .and yes, they're brats, undisciplined, spoiled. . . .
You're on the wrong side of this argument, clearly misguided by the abuse in your own past. And nana is right about your seeing the past through rose-colored glasses.
There were many more angry monsters created by abusive parents "back in the day" - because that's what beating a child does. Fills them with rage. We see lots less of that today and we are all better off for it.
Beating a child with an object is abuse - and yes, it is sadistic and it is sick. When it comes to child abuse, one opinion is not as valid as any. No one is "entitled" to beat a child or to be taken seriously when advocating it.
Frankly, I'd like to see this thread closed as there is no debate here. Child abuse is the one topic with no room for opposing sides and there should be no platform for the advocacy of violent and cruel behavior.
We got the occasional spanking. No big deal to me. I still remember my aunt used timeouts with her daughter's. This was the first I had heard of it. I assume she did it wrong since they were the worst behaved kids I'd seen in person.
I was never hit with a belt when I was a kid. I was spanked with a wooden spoon (lol) and with a plain open hand on occasion when I had done something especially bad.
I personally would never use a belt on a kid.
My first preference is to not use physical methods of discipline, and to reserve a spank for a very special occasion.
I only swatted my daughter twice when she was a toddler. Once when she ran out into a road after being told 3 times not to and a second time when she dumped the dry cat food in the fish tank. It was a single swat on the backside and mostly meant to get her attention.
I also think that other methods--time out, earning/revoking privileges, etc. work better and are psychologically healthier for the kid.
when I was spanked, I got wise to the pain at a young age, and the spankings were comical indeed. learning how to deflect a belt , flip flop or switch was quick. I Never got hit with hands, and the spankings died out around 10 years of age. Did it work for me? I guess it did. This is not the solution for raising kids. Listening and planning their days for fun and experiment is.
Parents need to act right , at all times in front of their kids, and lead by example. Parents need to BE THERE, which is not always possible in a dual income household. Parents need to be OFF the bottle and other vices. Parents need to have self control , and not involve kids in their Adult Non-sense.
So kids are curious, let them be curious, let them skate on little things, they do not always have to face the harsh punishment , that is the belt. Other forms of discipline works, just be easy on dishing it out. The belt should only be used below the knees, and when they really mess up.
What is really messed up?
- intentionally causing major damage or hurt
-completely disrespecting parents with cursing and shouting, or hitting
-stealing money
-you know, thug sht.
But remember, monkey see monkey do, so don't show them how to be bad.
I know of many kids growing up, their dads thrashing them against a wall, having bloody brawls, mom is messed up on drugs, always a screaming match at home. their dads were lost bad asses themselves, only for their kids to follow in their footsteps, obligatorily. Very sad to see prison was not a scary place for them, but just summer camp.
when I was spanked, I got wise to the pain at a young age, and the spankings were comical indeed. learning how to deflect a belt , flip flop or switch was quick. I Never got hit with hands, and the spankings died out around 10 years of age. Did it work for me? I guess it did. This is not the solution for raising kids. Listening and planning their days for fun and experiment is.
Parents need to act right , at all times in front of their kids, and lead by example. Parents need to BE THERE, which is not always possible in a dual income household. Parents need to be OFF the bottle and other vices. Parents need to have self control , and not involve kids in their Adult Non-sense.
So kids are curious, let them be curious, let them skate on little things, they do not always have to face the harsh punishment , that is the belt. Other forms of discipline works, just be easy on dishing it out. The belt should only be used below the knees, and when they really mess up.
What is really messed up?
- intentionally causing major damage or hurt
-completely disrespecting parents with cursing and shouting, or hitting
-stealing money
-you know, thug sht.
But remember, monkey see monkey do, so don't show them how to be bad.
I know of many kids growing up, their dads thrashing them against a wall, having bloody brawls, mom is messed up on drugs, always a screaming match at home. their dads were lost bad asses themselves, only for their kids to follow in their footsteps, obligatorily. Very sad to see prison was not a scary place for them, but just summer camp.
Some good sense in this post, which contrasts with the puzzling highlighted comment. A belt or other object should never be used. Period.
I think you know better than to think, even for a moment, that beating a child teaches respect or deters them from hurtful behavior. Quite the opposite. It instills rage that will almost surely manifest itself in future harm to others or self.
A belt solves no problems. It creates them....or makes existing ones much worse.
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