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Not a lot of waste there. My mom used to roast (bake? to me, the term seems synonymous, at least in regard to chicken) 2 whole chickens together at least once a month. We used the leftovers the next day to make sandwiches for school lunches. She used the bones to make a stock for soup, etc, so pretty much all of it was used up.
I guess I consider roasting a chicken kind of like boiling an egg....and it’s so EASY that I can’t imagine that a young adult wouldn’t know how to do it.
The car stuff I can understand. My dad never told me to get my car serviced regularly, and I never thought to ask him when I got my first used car at age 22, and had to learn the hard way when the brakes went out.
It's funny because for the first half of my childhood, my father worked as an auto mechanic and always took care repairs for friends and family. Yet, until I had been driving for a good 2 years, I had no idea that oil needed to be changed! I remember my now husband asking me when I had it changed last and was all "Uhhhh, is it supposed to be changed?" The look on his face was that of incredulity, but I honestly had no idea that one needed to do anything more than put gas in it and take it in for a brake job when the car no longer stopped.
Untrue? I guess you get your news from these so called "fake" news outlets. Anytime you take a course that was offered for FREE in the K-12 system, discontinue it, and only have it available in community college classes that you have to PAY for results in far less people having access to it.
You need to read these articles in depth, because you are completely wrong about this subject.
1. An opinion piece from 5 years ago. She's wrong, probably repeating some rumor. See this: https://www.publicschoolreview.com/c...public-schools "There are 75 vocational public schools in California. Vocational schools offer a series of courses which directly prepare individuals in paid or unpaid employment in jobs that have requirements other than a baccalaureate or advanced degree."
2. Another opinion piece. See this: "It is true that earnings studies show college graduates earn more over a lifetime than high school graduates."
Which brings me to this, which I am glad I bookmarked: https://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_chart_001.htm
Now mind you, I have no problem with anyone taking voc-ed who wants to and no problem with people working in the trades if that's their choice.
3. An article from six years ago about a PROPOSED reduction in voc-ed of 20%. Did it happen? Who knows? Up to you to back up.
Back when I was growing up, there was home economics in school, where girls were taught sewing, cooking, and other basics of running a home. It was originally only for girls. Boys took shop classes where they learned wood working or the basics of automotive repair.
Shortly after I graduated, those classes became co-ed, but they were still taught. These days, there don't seem to be any required "home economics" type classes. I've found basic cooking classes and some basic economics classes that teach about credit and banks, but the home ec classes we had seem to be gone.
From what I'm reading on boards and various places, there seems to be a number of young people out there who don't have these skills. I know a lot of them have no critical thinking skills: I wrote about that in the employment section. If they can't think critically, how can they be expected to teach themselves many of these skills? Youtubes only go so far, and some of them are either inaccurate or teach inefficient ways to accomplish the task.
I don't have a good answer: maybe wholesale public school reform? I didn't think that my education was anything special, but I was ready to live on my own at 17 and I had some marketable skills, as well. It seems like there are more young people in their 20s who are still living at home and aren't even close to being able to leave the nest, economics aside.
"Don't seem to be". Have you looked at your school district's course offerings, and graduation requirements? My kids' school has "home ec" though it's now called "Consumer and Family Studies" and one practical arts class (home ec, shop, many other choices) is required. When I took "Home Ec" we didn't learn everything about running a household, either. We basically learned cooking and sewing, with a little nutrition added.
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I was raised to believe that the fundamental job of a parent was to teach their children how to become a functioning adult in society. If a child leaves home and can't do basic things, then don't the parents bear some responsibility for this?
This isn't "parent shaming." It's just a question.
It wouldn't bother any of you if your child left home and couldn't do laundry or cook anything past a basic PB&J sandwich?
Just tell me what you all believe a parent should teach their children. Let's discuss.
Don't break your neck falling off your high horse.
I was raised to believe that the fundamental job of a parent was to teach their children how to become a functioning adult in society. If a child leaves home and can't do basic things, then don't the parents bear some responsibility for this?
This isn't "parent shaming." It's just a question.
It wouldn't bother any of you if your child left home and couldn't do laundry or cook anything past a basic PB&J sandwich?
Just tell me what you all believe a parent should teach their children. Let's discuss.
Since when is knowing how to roast a chicken or rebuilding a car necessary for functioning in adult society?
I was raised to believe that the fundamental job of a parent was to teach their children how to become a functioning adult in society. If a child leaves home and can't do basic things, then don't the parents bear some responsibility for this?
This isn't "parent shaming." It's just a question.
It wouldn't bother any of you if your child left home and couldn't do laundry or cook anything past a basic PB&J sandwich?
Just tell me what you all believe a parent should teach their children. Let's discuss.
Really?
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Originally Posted by charlygal
Young adults are having to take adulting classes or watch adulting videos online in order to learn how to live. They don't know how to perform basic things like doing laundry, cooking basic food like scrambled eggs or grilled cheese or roast chicken, cleaning up after themselves, how to use a bank, etc.
As I see it, these are the basic things that parents are supposed to teach their children.
If your child doesn't know these things and needs to take classes or watch videos, would you feel like a failure as a parent? Where did you drop the ball?
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So parents shouldn't be responsible for teaching basic life stuff? Then what is the role of the parent?
Also, public libraries are usually funded by tax money. Why should our tax money go to people with a parenting deficiency? That tax money could go to more important needs.
Remember, these are not general community information classes. These are classes to teach people to be adults. What are parents doing for 18 years?
Honestly, I've never heard of someone not being able to make a PB&J. Unless of course it wasn't part of their food repetoire while growing up. And honestly, I do not consider not being able to make a PB&J a parenting fail. There is so much to learn and a lifetime to learn it. Giving your children the love and support to accomplish things; the curiosity and discipline to actually learn them, and the ethics, responsibility and compassion to do them in a way that benefits themselves and others. As for specifics? Scrambled eggs are just scrambled eggs. *shrugs*
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I was raised to believe that the fundamental job of a parent was to teach their children how to become a functioning adult in society. If a child leaves home and can't do basic things, then don't the parents bear some responsibility for this?
This isn't "parent shaming." It's just a question.
It wouldn't bother any of you if your child left home and couldn't do laundry or cook anything past a basic PB&J sandwich?
Just tell me what you all believe a parent should teach their children. Let's discuss.
My kids were making sandwiches at, like, 5. My older two kids assist with laundry. There's a lot we've exposed them to, and a lot they've learned through self-directed learning. Basic "adulting" isn't that hard.
I have read the whole thing. Nothing better to say?
You parachuted in here at the end; well, the end for now anyway. When you first posted, you had a carat pointing to my post. I didn't know what you were getting at.
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