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Old 08-03-2017, 12:09 PM
 
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While death itself is always diagnosed correctly (well, aside from a few freak cases, I guess), the CAUSE of death has not always been diagnosed correctly. Anaphylaxis likely occurred in times past. It was just listed as suffocation, heart attack, or whatever else. People died from all sorts of things and didn't have the cause of death listed accurately.
Think of all those that were, particularly in the 20th century. The organic mechanism of death was difficult to determine, but causal correlations were figured out pretty competently. That's how the concept of vaccination was discovered in the first place.


If kids were dying in the 50s from simply smelling peanuts--which was a heavily marketed food--that would have been noted.
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Old 08-03-2017, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Taking what away from whom? If you think a kid with a peanut allergy is annoying, you're going to be in for a world of hurt as your kids get bigger and start school! Believe you me, there are things you'll need to deal with that are MUCH more annoying than having to pack a ham sandwich instead of a PBJ.


...and we'll be seeing thread titles such as Peanut Butter and the Employee Break Room.
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Old 08-03-2017, 04:40 PM
 
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Is nobody wondering why such allergies exist today?


More than half a century ago, peanuts were processed into "milk"--the first such non-dairy "milk" product for kids...and there were no sudden deaths reported.


All of these deadly allergies are new things. Nobody wonders why?

Some theories, not mutually exclusive:
1. Dead children couldn't grow up and pass their allergy prone genes by procreating
2. Children with such allergies were taught how to navigate a world of such dangers instead of expecting peanut free classrooms, etc. Basically, we didn't know about them for that reason.
3. Some people think a peanut allergy is fatal even though it's rare.
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Old 08-03-2017, 04:49 PM
 
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I'm floored that this thread is still going. With all the issues that face our world today, denying kids peanut butter in the face of allergies is barely a blip.

I don't care if your child will "only" eat pbj. That's the definition of a first world problem. Hungry kids eat. I do care that children are threatened by things in the environment that can cause them terrifying medical emergencies.

It's past time to stop catering to those who have options, and to start considering those who do not.
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Old 08-03-2017, 05:12 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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While death itself is always diagnosed correctly (well, aside from a few freak cases, I guess), the CAUSE of death has not always been diagnosed correctly. Anaphylaxis likely occurred in times past. It was just listed as suffocation, heart attack, or whatever else. People died from all sorts of things and didn't have the cause of death listed accurately.

But I do agree that allergies are much more prevalent now. They're also diagnosed earlier and with more precision. I don't know why they're more prevalent. Probably something environmental... think of all of the substances kids are exposed to now that they weren't 50-100 years ago.
People died from anaphylaxis in the past, but the word itself wasn't used until 1902. There was an ancient Egyptian pharaoh who died from a wasp sting, for example.

It used to be much more common for young children to die, and they weren't always able to determine a cause. It's possible some of those deaths were from severe allergic reactions.
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Old 08-03-2017, 05:25 PM
 
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People died from anaphylaxis in the past, but the word itself wasn't used until 1902. There was an ancient Egyptian pharaoh who died from a wasp sting, for example.

It used to be much more common for young children to die, and they weren't always able to determine a cause. It's possible some of those deaths were from severe allergic reactions.
Don't sell earlier generations short. They figured out in the 1700s that citrus fruits prevented scurvy, for instance.
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Old 08-03-2017, 05:37 PM
 
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I'm floored that this thread is still going. With all the issues that face our world today, denying kids peanut butter in the face of allergies is barely a blip.

I don't care if your child will "only" eat pbj. That's the definition of a first world problem. Hungry kids eat. I do care that children are threatened by things in the environment that can cause them terrifying medical emergencies.

It's past time to stop catering to those who have options, and to start considering those who do not.
Boom!
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Old 08-03-2017, 05:43 PM
 
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I'm floored that this thread is still going.
Snowflake moms love attention and drama.
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Old 08-03-2017, 07:28 PM
 
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I'm floored that this thread is still going. With all the issues that face our world today, denying kids peanut butter in the face of allergies is barely a blip.

I don't care if your child will "only" eat pbj. That's the definition of a first world problem. Hungry kids eat. I do care that children are threatened by things in the environment that can cause them terrifying medical emergencies.

It's past time to stop catering to those who have options, and to start considering those who do not.
Everyone has options. The issue is that people like you are trying to impose YOUR opinions on others. Force others to relinquish their freedoms, choices and beliefs and bend to your will. And you USE children as an excuse to get your way.
If you had real evidence that this was a real issue, people would make the correct CHOICE of their own FREE will and be happy with their choice. Not fighting and arguing with you.
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Old 08-03-2017, 07:54 PM
 
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Everyone has options. The issue is that people like you are trying to impose YOUR opinions on others. Force others to relinquish their freedoms, choices and beliefs and bend to your will. And you USE children as an excuse to get your way.
If you had real evidence that this was a real issue, people would make the correct CHOICE of their own FREE will and be happy with their choice. Not fighting and arguing with you.
Find something that really matters to care so deeply about. The world will be a better place, I promise you.
The rights of a child to eat any one item at school is so far down the list of meaningful issues that's it's become laughable.
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