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Old 08-06-2017, 04:43 PM
 
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This is nonsense.

Schools have been banning nuts as needed for more than 10 years. Please show evidence of even one state that has banned peanuts.
You dont comprehend well, do you. Try re reading.
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Old 08-06-2017, 04:53 PM
 
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Your doctor will write you a note for what ever you want.
What reason would a doctor have for lying about a kid having a peanut allergy? What parent would ask a doctor to lie about them having an allergy? I'm sure that all parents who have kids with food allergies wish that their kid did not have any food allergies.
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Old 08-06-2017, 05:43 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Actually for most people it takes time for the anaphylactic shock to occur. Generally an hour or 2. It can be the next day. Weird but that is the way it is.
My reactions start within 5 min of ingesting something.
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Old 08-06-2017, 05:47 PM
 
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Your doctor will write you a note for what ever you want.

No Im not a expert, but Ive lived with this for many decades and 3 generations of family members and along the way have met many people with peanut allergies. Just what sort of experience do you have in this matter? Zilch Id guess.

None of them think that removing peanuts from schools is a good idea.

And like you said it is my opinion. Thats it. Im not trying to turn my opinion into law like others here.
I haven't read every post, but I haven't seen anyone trying to turn their opinions into laws. I've seen people trying to explain that laws already exist that protect every child's right to a public education.
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Old 08-06-2017, 08:04 PM
 
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If a child has a life threatening allergy to something then I think it's perfectly acceptable and reasonable for the school to ban that item from the classroom.
This is unrealistic. This would require patdowns for Snickers bars and Lunchables at the school entrance for every student and teacher.
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Old 08-06-2017, 08:27 PM
 
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This is unrealistic. This would require patdowns for Snickers bars and Lunchables at the school entrance for every student and teacher.
How so? It's already been implemented in some schools. All it requires is communication between the administration and parents, and a sense of decency. The vast majority of parents will not deliberately put a child in harm's way, and will abide by the rules.
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Old 08-06-2017, 08:46 PM
 
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You dont comprehend well, do you. Try re reading.
I did. You tried to build a strawman between banning everything everywhere and banning peanuts in classrooms or schools. But the i t is a fallacious argument. ::so is an ad hom btw::
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Old 08-06-2017, 08:51 PM
 
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Your doctor will write you a note for what ever you want.

No Im not a expert, but Ive lived with this for many decades and 3 generations of family members and along the way have met many people with peanut allergies. Just what sort of experience do you have in this matter? Zilch Id guess.

None of them think that removing peanuts from schools is a good idea.

And like you said it is my opinion. Thats it. Im not trying to turn my opinion into law like others here.
First, apparently your experience has lead you to make a whole lot of erroneous conclusions, one like where you said "MOST" people do not go into anaphylaxis for hours or days.

Second, my experience is similar to yours. Teacher (and scientist but not in this field) who has seen anaphylaxis due to nut allergies, multiple times in schools. Out of the thousand some odd students I have had over the nearly 20 years of teaching I have had about 30 with severe allergies, and 10 with severe nut allergies. I am also epipen certified, and teacher of record when it comes to several of those students allergen plans.

Finally, I would argue with the last point. You stated "Actually for most people it takes time for the anaphylactic shock to occur. Generally an hour or 2. It can be the next day. Weird but that is the way it is."

That is not an opinion, but stated as if it were fact. That is the only thing I object to as it is dangerous to tell people that.
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Old 08-06-2017, 08:53 PM
 
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This is unrealistic. This would require patdowns for Snickers bars and Lunchables at the school entrance for every student and teacher.
Nut bans are in place in many schools. They do not pat anyone down. But by having the ban, educating students and parents, etc. it severely limits the amount of allergens and thus the likelihood of an accidental exposure.

I would also point out nut bans are just one tool, many others are typically in place as well, the most important being self care of the students involved and the vigilance of their teachers.
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Old 08-06-2017, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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First, apparently your experience has lead you to make a whole lot of erroneous conclusions, one like where you said "MOST" people do not go into anaphylaxis for hours or days.

Second, my experience is similar to yours. Teacher (and scientist but not in this field) who has seen anaphylaxis due to nut allergies, multiple times in schools. Out of the thousand some odd students I have had over the nearly 20 years of teaching I have had about 30 with severe allergies, and 10 with severe nut allergies. I am also epipen certified, and teacher of record when it comes to several of those students allergen plans.

Finally, I would argue with the last point. You stated "Actually for most people it takes time for the anaphylactic shock to occur. Generally an hour or 2. It can be the next day. Weird but that is the way it is."

That is not an opinion, but stated as if it were fact. That is the only thing I object to as it is dangerous to tell people that.
I agree with you, lkb0714. Here's what the AAAI says: " Symptoms usually appear within minutes to a few hours after eating a food, swallowing medication or being stung by an insect."
https://www.aaaai.org/conditions-and...ce/anaphylaxis
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