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View Poll Results: Who was Wrong?
Manager 10 5.08%
Mother 67 34.01%
Couple 63 31.98%
Both Manager and Mother? 77 39.09%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 197. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-17-2017, 01:14 PM
 
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Still waiting for that good advice on how to train the 6 month old...


And I went back and read the article again. Maybe some will just think it's semantics, but the 10 month old wasn't screaming, he was yelling. He was yelling for the fun of it. Part of his vocalization. To my mind, there is a difference, but I can understand how it might not make a difference to someone else.


I wonder if the baby was babbling and laughing too loud, if the parents would still be getting all the grief.


But at any rate, the manager, who was actually there, sided with the couple.
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Old 08-17-2017, 01:14 PM
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Wow this thread went south fast LOL.

Apparently it hasn't hurt their business as they have a 4.5 star Google rating and 4 star Yelp.
It's their onion blossoms, I tell you!
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Old 08-17-2017, 01:16 PM
 
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I had neighbors, who played his music so loud, in the winter time with the windows shut, I could sing along with the words. they had a baby, not a toddler, but a baby, and babies ears are extremely sensitive to sound, so it was always suggested not to take a baby on a plane for fear of damage to their ears.
Makes sense Human beings who just came out of the womb within the year or so, I would think, need time to adjust to life outside the womb. Their bodies need to grow and adjust. Being taken up into the sky flown around the country doesn't seem wise. Nor is blaring music around them. And to be expected to behave in restaurants where people go to relax and enjoy a nice meal together, is generally too stringent expectations.

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Old 08-17-2017, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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I didn't get that from the article at all. I felt that given that the manager sided with the mom, it was likely that the baby was in fact not excessively disruptive. Some people seem to think that babies and kids aren't allowed to make any noise at all and get offended even when they are making a comparable amount of noise as some adults.

I think you may be projecting a personal experience without enough information to know whether or not it was similar to your own experience.
well, no actually I'm not projecting my personal experience....I read an article where the baby was in fact consistantly screaming.

Perhaps the manager was one of those people who allowed their children to scream in public as well.

You made another comment about it "only" being a texas roadhouse....

There is no comparison or distinction between the two...regardless, one must be aware of the fact that there are other people out there, paying customers, who wish to have an evening with their friends.

As I suggested before, we're all different, and some people, especially older folks with neurological disorders, cannot stand that kind of shrill noise. So to to consider that, might be wise....and helpful to develop that awareness?
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Old 08-17-2017, 01:18 PM
 
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Makes sense. Those beings that just came out of the womb within the year or so, I would think, need time to adjust outside the womb. Not being taken up into the sky flown around the country. Or expected to behave in restaurants where people go to relax and enjoy a nice meal together.
No one expects children to behave, of course they are going to try to push your buttons out in public, all I'm saying is, that it might make everyone a lot more peaceful if more parents would be aware of the fact, that you are in public, so, lets work at this together, instead of fighting it....

I don't know, seems pretty simple to me.?

I believe "Awareness" has been lost....by allowing children to have their way all the time, so it doesn't matter how it inconveniences others or spoils their evening....
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Old 08-17-2017, 01:18 PM
 
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And I went back and read the article again. Maybe some will just think it's semantics, but the 10 month old wasn't screaming, he was yelling. He was yelling for the fun of it. Part of his vocalization. To my mind, there is a difference, but I can understand how it might not make a difference to someone else
I remember the yelling just to hear oneself yell phase. I thought all babies went through this phase. It seems like some have forgotten. It's extremely normal. I see and hear it regularly when around babies of a certain age. It doesn't bother me at all. It's very different then the distressing sound of a baby crying.

Texas Roadhouse is a loud place and because of that is the perfect place for a family to go out to eat if they have a baby.
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Old 08-17-2017, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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Sorry, but no. Having a kid doesn't mean the parents have to avoid restaurants for the next 18 years. Completely absurd. Children are not embarrassments to be locked away from the public.
I never said anything about "the next 18 years." Go back and read my post again. I said parents need to stop bringing their kids out into public situations before they are ready and have the necessary social skills to handle being in those situations.

That would include being able to keep one's voice down to a reasonable level, and not shrieking for the sake of shrieking. Sounds to me that the 10-month-old in question doesn't have that skill mastered yet, and there are few things more annoying than a kid shrieking at the top of their lungs, good reason or no good reason. If the parents don't want to take the proper steps, like bringing him outside until he gets it out of his system than, yes, they need to stay home and listen to him themselves, and not force their fellow patrons to listen to it too. Or get a sitter, or leave him with his grandparents or another relative if they want to go out. That's what parents did 42 years ago when I was his age, and before that, too.
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Old 08-17-2017, 01:21 PM
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Here's an article written in more detail. I'd be curious to know if the baby had a piercing scream, or just kind of was yelling. The article references the baby screaming at approaching waitresses, and was also excited by a group singing "happy birthday". Which is loud, too, actually.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...meal/73454406/
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Old 08-17-2017, 01:22 PM
 
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I read this article, what's your take on this, who was in the wrong?

Texas Roadhouse diners leave spiteful note after Katie Leach's baby yelled | Daily Mail Online
Sounds like a case of "my kid is adorable and everyone should think they're the most precious thing on the planet" colliding with "I hate all kids and they should be locked away until they're 18".
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Old 08-17-2017, 01:23 PM
 
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I never said anything about "the next 18 years." Go back and read my post again. I said parents need to stop bringing their kids out into public situations before they are ready and have the necessary social skills to handle being in those situations.

That would include being able to keep one's voice down to a reasonable level, and not shrieking for the sake of shrieking. Sounds to me that the 10-month-old in question doesn't have that skill mastered yet, and there are few things more annoying than a kid shrieking at the top of their lungs, good reason or no good reason. If the parents don't want to take the proper steps, like bringing him outside until he gets it out of his system than, yes, they need to stay home and listen to him themselves, and not force their fellow patrons to listen to it too. Or get a sitter, or leave him with his grandparents or another relative if they want to go out. That's what parents did 42 years ago when I was his age, and before that, too.
yes, I cannot believe how early people take newborns out today, before they have all their shots.
It just wasn't done when our children were growing up. And if we couldn't take our child along, we just didn't go. Even in church, we walked out with our child if he started crying or left him in the nursery, but, I really wanted to start him early at learning how to behave in public. The do's and don'ts so to speak. I believe he was a toddler, when we started, and I remember so many people stopping and saying what a good boy he was, and he was, we were very proud of him and still are.
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