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Old 10-04-2017, 09:29 AM
 
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Two year old vary wildly in developmental ability. Even so most people are already teaching their toddler "we don't take things that don't belong to us". Whether it is giving back toys that take from other kids, or not grabbing off of moms plate, or giving back the necklace they stole from a store, those are all lessons that most 2 yos can grasp. Do you really think a 2yo shouldnt be taught the difference between "mine" and "not mine"?



I know you already think I was a bad parent, but maybe you can give me a smattering of knowing what I'm talking about, when I say he was too young to know what he was doing at the time. Or maybe not.


Like I said, he was walking at 8 1/2 months old, and so technically, a toddler. I don't remember exactly how old he was when this happened, but he wasn't 2 yet, because his brother wasn't born yet.


He was too little to know what he did, so there was no lesson to teach.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:05 AM
 
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I know you already think I was a bad parent, but maybe you can give me a smattering of knowing what I'm talking about, when I say he was too young to know what he was doing at the time. Or maybe not.


Like I said, he was walking at 8 1/2 months old, and so technically, a toddler. I don't remember exactly how old he was when this happened, but he wasn't 2 yet, because his brother wasn't born yet.


He was too little to know what he did, so there was no lesson to teach.
Of course he was too young at the time to know, that is why you tell him. We tell toddlers no all the time, don't hit, hands to your self, no screaming, no throwing rocks. And we explain why. Even if they don't understand they will eventually.

And you are not a bad mom.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:08 AM
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Of course he was to young at the time to know, that is why you tell him. We tell toddlers no all the time, don't hit, hands to your self, no screaming, no throwing rocks. And we explain why. Even if they don't understand they will eventually.
Yes. Absolutely. So if you see a child taking something from the store and placing it in their stroller, that's the time to say "when we see something we want in the store, we put it in the cart. Ask me first, and if it's okay to have that, we'll put it in the cart".

The idea of taking a child who has placed an item in the stroller - who is too young to understand the concept of property theft - back to the store and shaming him and making him apologize for stealing is confusing for the child.

So while it's valid to tell the child oh no, we don't put store items in the stroller, there's no reason to punish and shame if they have done that.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:11 AM
 
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I had this happen to me, thankfully it was at the grocery store I frequent regularly. I explained to my then 2 y.o. daughter that taking things like that was "not nice" and could get us in trouble. I held onto the candy and returned it the next time I went. Everyone was okay. If it was a big ticket item like a necklace or something, I would return immediately. Small impulse buy items, next time I went to said store.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:14 AM
 
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ClaraC, I'm not saying you should shame him. You explain what he did was not the right thing to do. Explain why, then when you go to store next time just give item back. No need to call him out in the store.
If the kid is 1 years old he might not really know what he did even if you do explain, but just like you tell a 1 year old not to hit, you tell them not to take things that aren't theirs.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:20 AM
 
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I know you already think I was a bad parent, but maybe you can give me a smattering of knowing what I'm talking about, when I say he was too young to know what he was doing at the time. Or maybe not.


Like I said, he was walking at 8 1/2 months old, and so technically, a toddler. I don't remember exactly how old he was when this happened, but he wasn't 2 yet, because his brother wasn't born yet.


He was too little to know what he did, so there was no lesson to teach.
It seems strange to me that no one here has mentioned being what you want to eventually model to your kids. I mean, how many people would fail to return or pay for an otherwise accidental acquisition from a store if no kid to supposedly teach? Sounds like a lot.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:24 AM
 
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It seems strange to me that no one here has mentioned being what you want to eventually model to your kids. I mean, how many people would fail to return or pay for an otherwise accidental acquisition from a store if no kid to supposedly teach? Sounds like a lot.
Either you have it in you or not. Kid or no kid.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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It seems strange to me that no one here has mentioned being what you want to eventually model to your kids. I mean, how many people would fail to return or pay for an otherwise accidental acquisition from a store if no kid to supposedly teach? Sounds like a lot.
Plenty of people have mentioned it - I know because I'm one of them. But I also made the point that it's not solely about doing it while my son is around. I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't do the same thing when he wasn't there to see it.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:47 AM
 
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Well, I have a toddler, but I haven't been in such a situation. I think I'd come back and explain the situation because it would make me restless
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:54 AM
 
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Plenty of people have mentioned it - I know because I'm one of them. But I also made the point that it's not solely about doing it while my son is around. I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't do the same thing when he wasn't there to see it.
Huh. I did not see it. Good on you! I agree with you.
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