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I guess you're against people like surgeons and businessmen getting out of jury duty, too, which happens all the time. After all, "Expecting [them] to do what everyone else manages to do in order to fulfill [their] civic duty is hardly something to start an internet campaign about."
Just to play devil's advocate here, I assume somebody (whether it's a family member or babysitter/nanny) can step in for a mother when she's away... but how easy is it to find a "substitute" surgeon, particularly if they're a specialist of some sort? Guess those organ transplants will have to wait, since Dr. Smith is serving on a jury for 3 months!
Business people (not just men FYI) are a different story.
So this is really about how not to serve on jury. ...
My understanding is if you remain off the voting registry they tend not to call or summon you.
Naturally jury duty is a priveledge ...
I rarely can agree with five ppl at work..not sure I could agree with 11 others. Sure it's ultimately about the evidence and wording of the law....
It depends as many state/local court systems have expanded their databases in order to reach more jurors.
Here in New York they use voter rolls, drivers license, property tax/transaction and other records. Most figure this out because jury duty questionnaires arrive addressed to however name is spelled on various records.
Even with this you have large numbers of NYC residents who don't transfer their out of state licenses to New York (which is required by law), they don't register to vote, and or if they are rarely do so all in aid of not being trawled by wide nets cast for potential jurors.
As for getting out of JD and or having a good excuse when hauled in for not responding, good luck with that.
New York long removed the long list of exemptions so pretty much everyone must serve. City makes great PR that people like Mike Bloomberg, Anna Wintour, and others equally rich and or famous have served. This whether they liked it or not.
The whole concept of jury duty is beyond dumb. Do away with it already. The common man/woman is a monkey and has no business being involved in law or meting out justice. Most countries don't have trial by jury, and for very good reason. Who would want to be judged by 12 monkeys? Look at what those yellow-vest monkeys are doing in France right now. Rioting and destroying property. The average man/woman is a primeval primate. This goes for ALL races, ethnicities, genders, etc.
Now, I get that judges are humans too and quite fallible, but at least they have legal training and experience on the job. They are also less likely to be emotionally connected to each case because they get jaded. Emotions and justice do not mix.
I don't understand why she didn't write in to be excused as soon as she was summoned.
I also live in California and am a stay-at-home (and former homeschooling) mother to three. Since the first was born, I've been summoned for jury duty at least eight times, and simply wrote in that I have no alternative child care or transportation for my children and therefore cannot serve at this time. It's never been the least bit of a problem; I've always been excused.
Once you've reported and been assigned to a case, it's a little late to ask to be excused because of your children. I'm not saying the judge was right to interrogate her like that, but with a little more common sense she wouldn't have been there in the first place.
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I call BS.
There is a checkbox for providing childcare for minor children under the age of 12, disabled family members, etc, on your summons. My spouse checks it every time, and is automatically excused, with no drama.
This lady is either grandstanding or fishing for attention for her SAHM side of the mommy wars.
I agree with both of you, something not right here. She evidently did not let them know in advance of her situation and is now complaining.
I was on jury duty from December of 2013 till May(end of the month too) of 2014 and I lost my job because of it. Yes, you could become homeless. However, if you were honest and told the bailiff what was going on, the Judge would likely do something to help you. They have a good idea how long a trial is going to last and they ask prospective jurors if it will be a financial hardship. If you told the attorneys during Voir Dire you would become homeless, you would be excused.
But they are not always right. They said my trial would last 6 to 8 weeks. Not 6 months.
And you do get paid. Every state has different laws and administers it differently but you do get paid. On my case, I was paid after the third day and it was $40 per day, paid once a week, in cash. They would hand you a voucher and you took it to the cashier!
Just to play devil's advocate here, I assume somebody (whether it's a family member or babysitter/nanny) can step in for a mother when she's away... but how easy is it to find a "substitute" surgeon, particularly if they're a specialist of some sort? Guess those organ transplants will have to wait, since Dr. Smith is serving on a jury for 3 months!
Business people (not just men FYI) are a different story.
Not to mention most medical folks are paid for days they are there. Jury duty would = zero salary.
Surprising that nobody here has thought to look up the judge. He's well known for being a flaming *******.
He may be, but in this case, I think the mom may have deserved it. If she had opportunity to handle an exemption in advance, she was wasting everyone's time.
I agree with both of you, something not right here. She evidently did not let them know in advance of her situation and is now complaining.
Again, not true. I asked to be excused due to childcare and was denied. I was hoping to be dismissed when I pleaded my case in person, but told too bad, figure it out.
I personally don't get the lack of interest in serving. It is one of the most interesting things I've ever done.
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I actually wouldn't mind serving. I get called every 3 years like clockwork, and usually get dismissed each time - 6 times so far. Half the time I make it to the panel and each time I still get dismissed. Usually one of the lawyers ends up dismissing me. I have my theories.
I wouldn't mind the changeup. 5 min ride to the courthouse (vs 1 hr commute both ways) and I get paid regardless. Of course hopefully it's just a 1-3 day trial.
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