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Old Yesterday, 03:21 PM
 
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It doesn’t take Rambo to handle drug dealers. I’ve been doing it for two decades. Most are about as tough as a limp piece of spaghetti.
I'm assuming you work in law enforcement. You should know then about NY's retreat doctrine.

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Old Yesterday, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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NY does not have a duty to retreat within ones home as long as the homeowner is not the instigator of the incident. That’s a misconception.
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Old Today, 05:19 AM
 
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The worst part of the story is that parents had to take a loan to pay off 750 pounds.
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Old Today, 09:31 AM
 
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NY does not have a duty to retreat within ones home as long as the homeowner is not the instigator of the incident. That’s a misconception.

So why is Joel Paul out on bail facing manslaughter charges for killing Shamel Shavuo in Queens with a knife and baseball bat?
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Old Today, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Who is that?
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Old Today, 11:32 AM
 
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Who is that?
Young man who killed an intruder.


https://pix11.com/2019/01/02/queens-...glar-to-death/


And yes, NYS certainly has a retreat doctrine for outside the home. That is why in the story linked above, the man is charged with manslaughter. He was outside the home.
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Old Today, 11:38 AM
 
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Two lines in is your answer. Didn’t happen in the home.

I haven’t said a word about outside and made sure my posts were written to make clear I was speaking about within one’s home.
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Old Today, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I live in Ireland so the situation might be different from the U.S. but I'm hearing stories from friends about a sibling or friend of a friend who's family has had to pay off drug dealers cause one of the kids borrowed too much and couldn't pay it back.

The closest story was a classmate who told me his younger teenage brother borrowed €750 worth of weed and then couldn't pay it back. The drug dealers came to his parents house and threatened to burn the house down if it wasn't paid. His parents took out a loan and paid the dealers. Many say going to the police is pointless cause they'll tell you the same thing but might give you the added benefit of getting your kids in trouble for drugs.

If you were in such situations, what would you do?
I'd say "Wait a minute, I'll go get the money" but, instead, I'd come back with my gun and kill them...In self defense, of course.
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Old Today, 01:08 PM
 
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I'd say "Wait a minute, I'll go get the money" but, instead, I'd come back with my gun and kill them...In self defense, of course.
2nd person to resort to murder.

I'd pay them. And then kiddo would have to go to rehab.

IDK what one does with kiddo that keeps getting in trouble beyond what parents can bail out. How one says sorry, if they kill you I can't do anything about it.
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