Parents must pay $30,441 for getting rid of son's porn cache (adult, better)
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Assuming the parents have anything left... it might even be a moot point.
It's a fairly safe assumption. If they own a house they will likely have 10x that amount. Zillow estimate is $278,000. Sounds like the parents have a much better life plan than the son. In fact, sounds like this divorced porn addict that was living in his parents home is more likely than not to need their help long before it comes to probate.
You first sentence makes no sense. You say "not legally" and yet use the terms "right to sue, a legal term, in the same thought.
This has nothing to do with any one individual's view on morality. It is legal and that is all that matters. In this case, yes... he had every right to sue his parents for destruction of personal property.
Downloading new porn statement is irrevelant in this case... You have no idea if the porn he obtained was free on the internet or paid for.
This wasn't just a typical porn stash or a collection of your basic dirty movies. I believe the son had several vintage and rare limited edition prints and videos of that are impossible to replace. In fact many adult magazines such as vintage Playboys can reach high valuations as the years and interest in past models increases.
People insisting there is an addiction or greater level or perversion honestly don't understand that adult/porn/erotica has always been a highly collectible item for most of human history. The son had a perfectly normal collection and his life didn't revolve around porn. But some people are too consumed with what people do in their free-time so the pick-forks and accusations of problems were there are none come out.
Morally (not legally) do you think a 40 something man had a right to sue his parents on this issue after staying with them for 10 months?
I mean if the parents threw away some valuable ancient archeological fertility symbols that they objected to because of their Baptist religion, I could see that lawsuit might be morally justified.
But, hired experts aside, you can download a new porn collection without a lot of difficulty.
You can't simply download something that is rare and out-of-print. People spend their lives being a collector, so besides the cost it takes a significant amount of time and money to replace a collection of any kind by a serious collector. Some items might no longer be available. Just because you don't see any value in the collection, doesn't mean it has none. There is nothing moral about this. Except that the parents are stupid to try to control a 40-something year old man like this.
…Except that the parents are stupid to try to control a 40-something year old man like this.
Control? His stuff was in Mommy & Daddy’s house! 40? Take your stuff with you. Told my sons when they were around 25, I will store “ your stuff” until you are 33. After that, take it or I get rid of it.
You can't simply download something that is rare and out-of-print. People spend their lives being a collector, so besides the cost it takes a significant amount of time and money to replace a collection of any kind by a serious collector.
It is all just “stuff”. It is not worth anything until you sell it. Sitting in boxes: it is just stuff.
It's a fairly safe assumption. If they own a house they will likely have 10x that amount. Zillow estimate is $278,000. Sounds like the parents have a much better life plan than the son. In fact, sounds like this divorced porn addict that was living in his parents home is more likely than not to need their help long before it comes to probate.
Let’s hope he wouldn’t have the gall to ever call and ask them for any money or help. After all he has that “valuable” collection he can sell.
If they were, how much rent was the son paying? What was his share of the utilities, insurance, food etc? How long was his signed lease for?
They definitely should be held responsible for destroying his property, but without the above agreement a landlord-tenant relationship it was not. It was just a person staying with their parents by mutual agreement.
You don't need to be paying rent or have a signed lease to have a legal landlord/tenant relationship. You just need to be living in someone's house that is not your own. Being there for over 30 days and/or receiving mail there is all that is required in most places. Some localities would call this a boarder relationship since the parents also live in the home, but that is a difference of degrees.
It wasn't just any link.. it was in the first opening post of this thread and the entire point of this discussion.
It is illegal for anyone to destroy another adult's property. Whether or not they are the child of the perpetrator of the destruction of property or whether or not they are considered a tenant or landlord is irrelevant.
There were specific thing that other poster was quoting that I pushed back on that weren't contained in the short 6 short paragraph article in the first link. For instance, it says nothing about there being other property there besides the porn.
I get that they were legally in the wrong. And again, I, as a parent, would not do what they did. But I, as an adult-aged son, would not store a giant porn collection at my parents' house either. And it's doubtful that they'd even care. It just seems awkward, icky, and rude. Just get a cheap storage unit.
Control? His stuff was in Mommy & Daddy’s house! 40? Take your stuff with you. Told my sons when they were around 25, I will store “ your stuff” until you are 33. After that, take it or I get rid of it.
I couldn't do that. If I needed the room I would tell them to get it by X date and if they didn't I would bring it to their place or have it delivered to them. It just feels wrong to dispose of someone else's property and I would feel guilty.
I couldn't do that. If I needed the room I would tell them to get it by X date and if they didn't I would bring it to their place or have it delivered to them. It just feels wrong to dispose of someone else's property and I would feel guilty.
Its different if its adult kids that haven't lived there since they were children. It becomes, essentially abandoned property.
My parents recently moved out of our childhood home and we had several calls on the matter. Basically I asked them to hold on to my HS letterman jacket, a couple jerseys, and that's it. They mailed me a few boxes. I told them to donate/dispose the rest how they see fit.
If they had said "you have x amount of time" that would have been fair too.
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