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Old 04-20-2023, 12:26 PM
 
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I'm not sure why people think a kid who kills animals is smart. Definitely seems like she's lacking something.

I think people have a hard time getting the right help the kids need especially when it's due to bad behavior. A lot of parents are in denial and just hope the problem will go away.
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Old 04-20-2023, 02:35 PM
 
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I guess it's a matter of opinion as to whether lizards are disgusting. You think they deserve to be hurt and tortured by children? You sound odd as well.
yeah torturing lizards is a whole different level than getting rid of household pests.
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If the kid keeps doing it and is laughing about it I'm guessing not much has been done to stop it. I'm not sure I'd be worried about teaching anything in a loving way if my kids were laughing about killing animals. Too many parents think this gentle parenting concept is the way to go at all times or something. If kids are being cruel I'd say gentle parenting should be out the window. Time to get real.
I can't do much but hope that parents get their child the help she needs. This doesn't sound like something that punishment will work since she can fake remorse and tears; given they confronted her about it and she acted sorry but wasn't. The child clearly has demonstrated a sweet demeanor around adults, well behaved at home and school too (according to the mother) and had good table manners when eating lunch. It's just that her cruelty towards animals had apparently been a secret. She was hiding it while likely acting nice with a pet when she couldn't get away with it or adults were there. That doesn't sound like just merely misbehaving. That sounds calculating.

That's the issue with that child; on the outside you have a well-behaved, disciplined child but she hides her cruelty and only admits to it when back against the wall or confronted with irrefutable evidence. Even then, she'll then cry and said it wasn't intentional and say something else, lying.
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Old 04-20-2023, 03:18 PM
 
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I found this:

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The FBI has identified cruelty to animals as a sign of psychopathy, a red flag indicating a high risk for committing acts of violence that pose a danger to the entire community.

When the science of behavioural profiling began to emerge in the 1970s, one of the most consistent findings reported by the FBI profiling unit was that childhood IATC appeared to be a common behaviour among serial murderers and rapists (i.e., those with psychopathic traits characterized by impulsivity, selfishness, and lack of remorse). Many notorious serial killers – such as Jeffrey Dahmer – began by torturing and killing animals in their childhood.
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Old 04-20-2023, 03:29 PM
 
Location: As of 2022….back to SoCal. OC this time!
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I found this:


The FBI has identified cruelty to animals as a sign of psychopathy
It is associated with it, but it’s not the only criteria for a DSM 5 diagnosis. And…the FBI isn’t going to help that girl or diagnose her. This is a parenting forum & IMO, we have to encourage the O.P. to see to it that girl gets professional help, not burn her at the stake.




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The child needs intensive therapy. The parents should not mess around with once a week one hour sessions…she needs to be seen very often and may even benefit from an institutional setting.
The child psychiatrist would determine the treatment approach & the diagnosis ofc. They would need to talk to her extensively & get a full history to do that.
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Old 04-20-2023, 04:02 PM
 
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A child being cruel to animals is bad. End of story. Best of luck to the parents.
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Old 04-20-2023, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Probably started with torturing bugs, moved to reptiles.
Next is warm-blooded animals.
Guess what's next?
The kid needs professional help asap.
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Old 04-20-2023, 06:31 PM
 
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I'd be spanking for that one.
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Old 04-20-2023, 07:17 PM
 
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I'd be spanking for that one.
Consider reading the Atlantic article I linked above.

Punishment does not work. Rewarding better behavior may.
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Old 04-21-2023, 08:28 AM
 
Location: As of 2022….back to SoCal. OC this time!
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I'd be spanking for that one.

Um. You would try to teach a 7 yr. old child empathy by not showing any yourself? Would you spank a child for aggressive behavior because of a brain tumor?
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Old 04-21-2023, 08:43 AM
 
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harming animals is step 1 to becoming a killer
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