Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Parenting
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 11-03-2008, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Windsor, Vero Beach, FL
897 posts, read 2,824,816 times
Reputation: 474

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimboburnsy View Post
By signing this card, I, ________, am taking a stand for a safe and harrassment-free school for all students.
_________________ __________ (signature) (date)
Problem solved. My Kindergartner would be allowed to sign the above (amended) pledge. Short, sweet, to-the-point, and AGE APPROPRIATE.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 11-03-2008, 04:08 PM
 
Location: THE USA
3,257 posts, read 6,127,514 times
Reputation: 1998
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimboburnsy View Post
.

A five year old can barely write his or her name; this will require a lot of explanation. The kids aren't going to "get" sexual orientation or gender identity, they aren't "sexually oriented" at all yet. I don't want anyone hacking a synopsis of this election to my child, I will do the explaining when he's ready.
You really think 5 yr olds are that stupid? My kid is 3 and can write her name (all 9 letters).

This is not about SEX and teaching your child how daddy and daddy get it on behind closed doors! Good GOD is that all you can think this is about? SEX? This is about justice for all kids to feel safe enough to allow themselves to be real without taunts from other children.

It is about tendencies and children ostracizing others because of their play choices because 5 yr olds hear from the siblings or parents that boys who want to be the mommy are wierdos.

This is prevent them from making fun of little billy who likes to wear frilly dresses during freetime. Or little davey because he likes to play dolls or little susie because she wants to be the daddy while playing house.

Kids are cruel and most of the time they get it from the parents.

They are plenty old enough to get being kind to those who are different from us. It is never to early to teach respect for everyone.

Don't make this about sex because that is NOT at all what they are doing with this pledge.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-03-2008, 05:17 PM
 
756 posts, read 2,219,019 times
Reputation: 635
This pledge is completely inappropriate for a kindergartner! A child this age does not understand gender identity or sexual orientation. At this age, teaching kids to be nice to everyone, without pointing out differences, is all that is necessary.

A pledge signed at school means nothing to a 5 year old if those values aren't enforced in his home environment.

Children are being forced to grow up too quickly.

There are many 5 year olds that are still learning to write their names and no, that doesn't make them stupid. Children develop motor skills at different rates!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-03-2008, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Visitation between Wal-Mart & Home Depot
8,309 posts, read 38,776,945 times
Reputation: 7185
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeminiGal View Post
Problem solved. My Kindergartner would be allowed to sign the above (amended) pledge. Short, sweet, to-the-point, and AGE APPROPRIATE.
Works for me.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-03-2008, 07:41 PM
 
6,066 posts, read 15,047,844 times
Reputation: 7188
Quote:
Originally Posted by ConcernedMommy View Post
There is a thread about this in the education forum as well. Kids should be taught not to name-call, period. Why bring up someone's sexuality at all? They don't want the kids making racial slurs either, I assume, but htey don't need a "pledge card" to bring it to their attention....
Ditto. My thoughts exactly.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-04-2008, 05:28 AM
 
Location: Orlando
8,176 posts, read 18,536,066 times
Reputation: 49864
Ok...I'll go this way...because the pledge card is a completely waste of time anyway. How many 5 year olds have a long attention spans???

Don't single out the gays and lesbians and make it an generic bully card. No reason for the kid to have to sign 10 thousand other pledge cards because somebody felt left out. Heaven forbid that kindergardeners aren't PC.

I'll still think it's stupid but I'd humor the school and let them sign that.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-04-2008, 06:17 AM
 
5,244 posts, read 4,709,049 times
Reputation: 1858
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kali's Grandma View Post
Sorry this pledge card would have come back to the school in itty bitty pieces.

I would never let my child sign something like this.

#1 they are too young to understand what this is all about
#2 The words people deem "offensive" change every day with whomever decides to take something the wrong way.

Don't raise my kid for me.
I agree with Kali's Grandma....Kids that are FIVE years old should not have to learn about those things already. Let KIDS be KIDS instead of making them grow up so fast!!!!!!!!!!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-04-2008, 09:42 AM
 
Location: In my own little corner... sittin' in Jax FL
589 posts, read 1,635,802 times
Reputation: 331
***WARNING*** another thread hijacked by SuSuSushi and Taboo2

Simple and to the Original Topic... Children should be taught to respect others. Then hopefully those children will move on to be adults who do the same. I do not feel that children need specific terminology such as LGBT or Islamic or Christian or ________ (fill it in) to teach tolerance. Teach them the BASIC fundamental RESPECT for others. Everything else will fall into place.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-04-2008, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Hillsborough
2,825 posts, read 6,925,589 times
Reputation: 2669
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sum1Else View Post
Simple and to the Original Topic... Children should be taught to respect others. Then hopefully those children will move on to be adults who do the same. I do not feel that children need specific terminology such as LGBT or Islamic or Christian or ________ (fill it in) to teach tolerance. Teach them the BASIC fundamental RESPECT for others. Everything else will fall into place.
I agree that children should be taught basic fundamental respect for others. But I also don't have a problem with lessons geared toward tolerance of specific groups during events such as National Ally Week.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-04-2008, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Visitation between Wal-Mart & Home Depot
8,309 posts, read 38,776,945 times
Reputation: 7185
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taboo2 View Post
You really think 5 yr olds are that stupid? My kid is 3 and can write her name (all 9 letters).

This is not about SEX and teaching your child how daddy and daddy get it on behind closed doors! Good GOD is that all you can think this is about? SEX? This is about justice for all kids to feel safe enough to allow themselves to be real without taunts from other children.

It is about tendencies and children ostracizing others because of their play choices because 5 yr olds hear from the siblings or parents that boys who want to be the mommy are wierdos.

This is prevent them from making fun of little billy who likes to wear frilly dresses during freetime. Or little davey because he likes to play dolls or little susie because she wants to be the daddy while playing house.

Kids are cruel and most of the time they get it from the parents.

They are plenty old enough to get being kind to those who are different from us. It is never to early to teach respect for everyone.

Don't make this about sex because that is NOT at all what they are doing with this pledge.
Since Gemini seems to have solved the problem I'll spare the gallery a step-by-step deconstruction and reduction of the above post and simply express my concern over the evidence of psychosis apparent therein.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Parenting

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:59 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top