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Old 11-02-2008, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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"I am taking a stand for a safe and harassment-free school for all students, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity/expression," read the pledges. "As an ally, I pledge to not use anti-LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender) language or slurs."

Breitbart.tv » Parents Upset Over Pro-Gay Pledge Cards Given to Kindergartners
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Old 11-03-2008, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Did they have Ace & Gary cartoon characters on the cards to make it more entertaining for the younger kids?
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Old 11-03-2008, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Montrose, CA
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"I am taking a stand for a safe and harassment-free school for all students, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity/expression," read the pledges. "As an ally, I pledge to not use anti-LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender) language or slurs."

Breitbart.tv » Parents Upset Over Pro-Gay Pledge Cards Given to Kindergartners

Oh, waaah boo hoo! Someone is teaching our kids not to be little bigots! The horror! Oh, the humanity!

Really folks. Isn't there something better to complain about than this? How about the fact that our kids aren't even learning to READ? Hey, actually that's a good point. Our kids can't read, so this card can't have "harmed" them in any way.
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Old 11-03-2008, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Visitation between Wal-Mart & Home Depot
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Oh, waaah boo hoo! Someone is teaching our kids not to be little bigots! The horror! Oh, the humanity!

Really folks. Isn't there something better to complain about than this? How about the fact that our kids aren't even learning to READ? Hey, actually that's a good point. Our kids can't read, so this card can't have "harmed" them in any way.
You would have made an excellent Nazi. The problem the parents are having is probably less to do with whether or not they agree with a pledge not to use anti-gay slurs and more to do with how much this resembles INDOCTRINATION. The school-board, the state and the nation have no right to inject politics into non-political beings (which is exactly what kindergarteners are) and parents have every right to try to influence their children's politics and world-view. I would perceive this as a grossly invasive and offensive measure.
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Old 11-03-2008, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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Sorry this pledge card would have come back to the school in itty bitty pieces.

I would never let my child sign something like this.

#1 they are too young to understand what this is all about
#2 The words people deem "offensive" change every day with whomever decides to take something the wrong way.

Don't raise my kid for me.
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Old 11-03-2008, 09:26 AM
 
Location: In my own little corner... sittin' in Jax FL
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(Said to SuSuSushi) You would have made an excellent Nazi. The problem the parents are having is probably less to do with whether or not they agree with a pledge not to use anti-gay slurs and more to do with how much this resembles INDOCTRINATION. The school-board, the state and the nation have no right to inject politics into non-political beings (which is exactly what kindergarteners are) and parents have every right to try to influence their children's politics and world-view. I would perceive this as a grossly invasive and offensive measure.
Wow.

And I agree with NOT giving these things to ANY child in school. Can you imagine my child's surprise when she wore a beloved shirt from a VBS (Vacation Bible School) and was told by another student that she can't wear something that says anything about God? She's in 3rd grade. But it would be ok to hand out this other stuff? Oh yeah... I'll go for that.
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Old 11-03-2008, 09:52 AM
 
Location: The Big D
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Wow.

And I agree with NOT giving these things to ANY child in school. Can you imagine my child's surprise when she wore a beloved shirt from a VBS (Vacation Bible School) and was told by another student that she can't wear something that says anything about God? She's in 3rd grade. But it would be ok to hand out this other stuff? Oh yeah... I'll go for that.
Sad thing is the schools are trying to do this yet they won't do anything to stop the bullying of an average, normal kid. Like your childs classmate telling her she can't wear it because someone might be offended by it. Too bad. If they are offended then they don't need to read the shirt. It's not like it was promoting violence, drugs or alcohol.

BTW, my kids wear their VBS and church camp t-shirts to school and my oldest wears her FCA (Fellowship of Chirstian Athletes) tee to school. No one better say they can't either.
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Sad thing is the schools are trying to do this yet they won't do anything to stop the bullying of an average, normal kid...
OT but at my kids' new school here in Kansas there is a big anti-bullying policy. They give the kids t-shirts and have worksheets with question/answer about bullying. And they dedicated a day of school for education about bullying. So some schools get it right. I wonder how long it will be before someone comes along and says we are warping their minds with this anti-bullying nonsense.

The basis of educating about bullying is to teach kids that it isn't good to pick on someone who is different and to stand up for other kids who may be the victims. Being different could mean anything from being nerdy, poor, gay, minority, etc. So my question here is: Why are they directing this at gays? Kindergartners don't even know what it means! Why don't they start with teaching them not to pick on each other over things kindergartners DO understand?
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Old 11-03-2008, 12:58 PM
 
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Sorry this pledge card would have come back to the school in itty bitty pieces.

I would never let my child sign something like this.

#1 they are too young to understand what this is all about
#2 The words people deem "offensive" change every day with whomever decides to take something the wrong way.

Don't raise my kid for me.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Montrose, CA
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You would have made an excellent Nazi. The problem the parents are having is probably less to do with whether or not they agree with a pledge not to use anti-gay slurs and more to do with how much this resembles INDOCTRINATION. The school-board, the state and the nation have no right to inject politics into non-political beings (which is exactly what kindergarteners are) and parents have every right to try to influence their children's politics and world-view. I would perceive this as a grossly invasive and offensive measure.
Nice, you've just Godwined this thread. You know what that means, right? Now, I could run crying to the mods saying you've personally attacked me, but I prefer that your comment stay out in the open.

Having the opinion that this "issue" is really a non-issue doesn't make me a Nazi, though I do like to wear boots...hmmmm...
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