Vaccinations (breastfeed, blog, raise, drugs)

[NoLoveLost]

Here is a list of all the different ingredients found in vaccines:

Ingredients-Winkler

Acel-Immune
DTaP
Diphtheria and Tetanus Toxoids and Acellular Pertussis Vaccine Adsorbed
Lederle Laboratories
1-800-934-5556
produced using formaldehyde, thimerosal, aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, polysorbate 80, gelatin

Act HIB
Haemophilus Influenzae Type B (Hib) Tetanus Toxoid Conjugate
Connaught Laboratories
1-800-822-2463
produced using ammonium sulfate, formalin, sucrose, thimerosal medium: semi-synthetic

Attenuvax
Measles Virus Vaccine Live
Merck & Co, Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolized gelatin
medium: chick embryo

DPT
Diphtheria and Tetanus Toxoids and Pertussis Vaccine Adsorbed
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals
1-800-366-8900 ext. 5231
produced using aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, ammonium sulfate, washed sheep red blood cells, glycerol, sodium chloride, thimerosal medium: porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein

Energix-B
Hepatitis B
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals
1-800-633-8900 ext. 5231
produced using aluminum hydroxide, thimerosal
medium: yeast (possibly 5% residual)

Havrix
Hepatitis A
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals
1-800-633-8900 ext. 5231
produced using formalin, aluminum hydroxide, phenoxyethanol (antifreeze), polysorbate 20, residual MRC5 proteins (from medium) medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

Biavax
Rubella and Mumps Virus Vaccine Live
Merck & Co, Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolized gelatin
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

HibTiter
Haemophilus Influenzae Type B (Hib)
Lederle Laboratories
1-800-934-5556
produced using polyribosylribitol, ammonium sulfate, thimerosal
medium: chemically defined, yeast based

Fluvirin
Influenza Virus Vaccine
Medeva Pharmaceuticals
1-888-MEDEVA
(716)274-5300
produced using embryonic fluid (chicken egg), neomycin, polymyxin, thimerosal, betapropiolactone
medium: embryonic fluid (chicken egg)

FluShield
Influenza Virus Vaccine, Trivalent, Types A&B
Wyeth-Ayerst
1-800-934-5556
produced using gentamicin sulfate, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80, tri(n)butylphosphate, thimerosal
medium: chick embryos

IPOL
Inactivated Polio Vaccine
Connaught Laboratories
1-800-822-2463
produced using 3 types of polio virus, formaldehyde, phenoxyethanol (antifreeze), neomycin, streptomycin, polymyxin B
medium: VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells

MMR
Measles Mumps Rubella Live Virus Vaccine
Merck & Co., Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using sorbitol, neomycin, hydrolyzed gelatin
mediums: M&M - chick embryo
Rubella - human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

M-R-Vax
Measles and Rubella Virus Vaccine Live
Merck & Co., Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolyzed gelatin
mediums: M - chick embryo
R - human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

Menomune
Meningococcal Polysaccharide Vaccine
Connaught Laboratories
1-800-822-2463
produced using thimerosal, lactose
medium: freeze dried polysaccharride antigens from Neisseria
Meningitidis

Meruvax II
Rubella Virus Vaccine Live
Merck & Co., Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolyzed gelatin
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

Mumpsvax
Mumps Virus Vaccine Live
Merck & Co., Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolyzed gelatin
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal
tissue)

Orimune
Poliovirus Vaccine Live Oral Trivalent
Lederle Laboratories
1-800-934-5556
produced using 3 types of attenuated polioviruses, streptomycin, neomycin, calf serum, sorbitol
medium: monkey kidney cell culture

Pneumovax
Pneumococcal Vaccine Polyvalent
Merck & Co., Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using phenol and capsular polysaccharides from the 23 most prevalent pneumococcal types

Imovax
Rabies Vaccine Adsorbed
Connaught Laboratories
1-800-822-2463
produced using human albumin, neomycin sulfate, phenol red indicator
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal
tissue)

Rabies Vaccine Adsorbed
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals
1-800-366-8900 ext. 5231
produced using betapropiolactone, aluminum phosphate, sodium, ethylmercurithiosalicylate (thimerosal), phenol red
medium: fetal rhesus monkey lung cells

Recombivax
Hepatitis B Vaccine Recombinant
Merck & Co., Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using thimerosal, aluminum hydroxide
medium: yeast (residual < 1% yeast protein)

RotaShield
Rotavirus Vaccine, Live, Oral, Tetravalent
Wyeth-Ayerst Laboratories
1-800-934-5556
produced using 1 rhesus monkey rotavirus, 3 rhesus-human reassortant viruses, sucrose, monosodium glutamate (MSG), potassium monophosphate, potassium diphosphate, fetal bovine serum, neomycin sulfate, amphotericin B
medium: fetal rhesus diploid cell line

Varivax
Varicella Virus Vaccine Live
Merck & Co., Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using sucrose, phosphate, glutamate, processed gelatin
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)


Chemical Profiles and Definitions, visit Scorecard Home to investigate chemical profiles
Sources: EDF (Environmental Defense Fund) & MME (Mosby’s Medical Encyclopdia)

Ammonium Sulfate: EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant
neurotoxicant
respiratory toxicant

Amphotericin B: MME definintion - "a drug used to treat fungus infections. Known allergy to this drug prohibits use. Side effects include blood clots, blood defects, kidney problems, nausea and fever. When used on the skin, allergic reactions can occur."

Aluminum: EDF Suspected - cardiovascular or blood toxicant neurotoxicant respiratory toxicant
More hazardous than most chemicals in 2 out of 6 ranking systems
On at least 2 federal regulatory lists Beta-Propiolactone: EDF Recognized - carcinogen

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CHEMICAL PROFILES AND DEFINITIONS:

Sources: EDF (Environmental Defense Fund) & MME (Mosby's Medical
Encyclopdia)

Ammonium Sulfate:
EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant, neurotoxicant,
respiratory toxicant

Amphotericin B:
MME definintion - a drug used to treat fungus infections. Known
allergyto this drug prohibits use. Side effects include blood clots,
blood
defects, kidney problems, nausea and fever. When used on the skin,
allergic reactions can occur.

Aluminum:
EDF Suspected - cardiovascular or blood toxicant, neurotoxicant,
respiratory toxicant. More hazardous than most chemicals in 2 out of 6
ranking systems on at least 2 federal regulatory lists

Beta-Propiolactone:
EDF Recognized - carcinogen
EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant, respiratory
toxicant, skin or sense organ toxicant. More hazardous than most
chemicals in 3 out of 3 ranking systems on at least 5 federal
regulatory
lists Ranked as one of the most hazardous compounds (worst 10%) to
humans

Formaldehyde:
EDF Recognized - carcinogen
Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant, immunotoxicant,
neurotoxicant, reproductive toxicant, respiratory toxicant
skin or sense organ toxicant
More hazardous than most chemicals in 5 out of 12 ranking systems on
at
least 8 federal regulatory lists Ranked as one of the most hazardous
compounds (worst 10%) to ecosystems and human health

Gentamicin Sulfate: an antibiotic

Hydrolyzed Gelatin: obtained from selected pieces of calf and cattle
skins, de-mineralized cattle bones (ossein) and porkskin

Monosodium Glutamate: Normally used as a flavor enhancer in a variety
of foods, however, due to concerns expressed by the American Academy
of
Pediatrics, MSG was removed from all products intended for use in
infants under the age of one. Injections of glutamate into laboratory
animals have resulted in damage to nerve cells in the brain.

Neomycin: an antibiotic

Phenol : aka Carbolic Acid
EDF Suspected - cardiovascular or blood toxicant, developmental
toxicant, gastrointestinal or liver toxicant, kidney toxicant,
neurotoxicant, respiratory toxicant, skin or sense organ toxicant
Morehazardous than most chemicals in 3 out of 10 ranking systems on
at least
8 federal regulatory lists

Phenoxyethanol: aka Antifreeze
EDF Suspected - developmental toxicant, reproductive toxicant Less
hazardous than most chemicals in 3 ranking systems
Polyribosylribitol: a component of the Hib bacterium

Polymyxin: an antibiotic

Polysorbate:
EDF Suspected - skin or sense organ toxicant
Sorbitol: EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant Less
hazardous than most chemicals in 1 ranking system

Streptomycin: an antibiotic
Sucrose: refined sugar

Thimerosal:
EDF Recognized - development toxicant
Suspected - skin or sense organ toxicant

Tri(n)butylphosphate:
EDF Suspected - kidney toxicant, neurotoxicant More hazardous than
most
chemicals in 2 out of 3 ranking systems on at least 1 federal
regulatory
list

[happeemommee]

Nolovelost...WOW! That certainly is scary! That is INSANE!!!

[stormy night]

NoLoveLost, Yeah, and have you checked out what's in our food????????? If you don't immunize your children, you probably don't eat, either.

Seriously, those who don't immunize their children are depending on those who do to keep the desease at bay, after all, the only way to keep kids from getting illnesses is to make sure they aren't exposed to it, or immunize them. Those are the only two choices.

If ALL of us refuse to immunize, and something like whooping cough or something worse, like polio comes around from someone who had been travelling to somewhere that desease is prevalent, my guess is an awful lot of kids would get sick, like they did in the old days.

My brother in law lost two sisters to polio and one was crippled for life. If you ask your parents, I'd bet a lot of them knew someone as a child who contracted a now obsolete desease and either died, or was heartbreakingly sick with lasting problems because of it.

Go ahead and stop immunizing children, but you are all playing russian roulette with their lives.

[NoLoveLost]

Originally Posted by happeemommee

Nolovelost...WOW! That certainly is scary! That is INSANE!!!

yeah it is...things we can't touch and yet they are injected into our bodies....
can we say:

ewwww

[NoLoveLost]

Originally Posted by stormy night

NoLoveLost, Yeah, and have you checked out what's in our food????????? If you don't immunize your children, you probably don't eat, either.

Those things aren't in MY families food...I don't know what you eat, but I don't buy processed foods, so NO those things AREN'T in MY families foods....... we don't eat crap, we eat organic.....

AND This was just a list, I didn't say one way or the other so don't jump all over me because they put this in the vaccinations. Why shouldn't people know what is being injected into their kids??? What's the problem????

you are so quick to jump on me, but I bet you didn't even bother to read the prior post......

[BagongBuhay]

Chemicals are everywhere in small quantities. When you think about chlorinated and fluorinated water, you don't think about drinking chlorox. Why do some people choose to inject themselves with botox, the botulism toxin, and what are in anti-venom drugs in addition? While citing the ingredients in a vaccine is informative, the quantities are not provided. Incomplete information is just as bad as no information or misinformation. Unless a person is a subject matter expert, a chemist, or an expert in any relevant science, posting a list of ingredients or chemicals used to synthesize the drug is misleading to say the least. Otherwise, let's do away with things like chemotherapy.

[TouchOfWhimsy]

Originally Posted by bibit612

Chemicals are everywhere in small quantities. When you think about chlorinated and fluorinated water, you don't think about drinking chlorox. Why do some people choose to inject themselves with botox, the botulism toxin, and what are in anti-venom drugs in addition? While citing the ingredients in a vaccine is informative, the quantities are not provided. Incomplete information is just as bad as no information or misinformation. Unless a person is a subject matter expert, a chemist, or an expert in any relevant science, posting a list of ingredients or chemicals used to synthesize the drug is misleading to say the least. Otherwise, let's do away with things like chemotherapy.

So... is handing a flyer to parents that says "this vaccine is deemed safe and effective by the FDA. A small number of children have mild side effects such as a sore arm or fussiness. A minute number of children may have more serious side effects. This vaccine is mandatory for your child to go to school." giving complete information? Because that is what pediatricians do every single day.

In the case of chemotherapy, a patient is choosing to use these harmful chemicals to try to treat a deadly disease that is already present in the body. A vaccine is injecting harmful chemicals to try to prevent a disease that a person may or may not be exposed to, and in most cases is not deadly or even terribly serious. There is a big difference. I assume you would not want to go through chemotherapy to *prevent* cancer.

[TouchOfWhimsy]

For example...if it was a specific chemical in the vaccine you feared...do you have scientific/medical data to support your 'fear'?

I have posted many links, as have other people. They are usually dismissed as "inaccurate" or "biased," as if the CDC website is not "biased." Everyone has a bias! The VAERS is a good place to start to see what types of reactions are possible. I've read balanced sources. There are many books available that discuss the dangers of the diseases in question as well as the dangers of the specific vaccines. I do not live in fear. There are certain vaccines that we made a decision not to give, period. I do not live in fear of the diseases, or of unvaccinated (or vaccinated-but-not-converted) children being near my children.

Someone posted that their three cihldren have all had reactions to vaccines. Would you say that her reasons for not vaccinating anymore are "fear based?" How is that any more "fear based" than someone saying "my two sisters died of polio, and now I make sure my kids get all of their vaccinations"?? Should that poster continue to pump her kids full of vaccinations that obviously are harmful TO THEM because a study of her particular children has not been done and published? Many people beleive that unless a doctor tells them so, they are unable and incompetent to pursue or decline treatment (of any sort) for their children. I remember telling our ped that no, thank you, I did not want to supplement my breastfed baby with iron, for example, and he was shocked. Is it truly shocking for a medical professional to have a parent not nod and say "okay doctor!" when an "order" is made?

Not to 'slam' you but why did you not take your kids to an ER?

I'm not the poster who posted about the kids with the side effects, but I personally would NEVER take a child to the ER who was not having a true emergency. The risks of having a swollen leg (which, really, what is an ER doctor going to do about that?), IMO, do not outweigh the risk of exposing a baby/toddler to all of the nasty germs in a hospital, specifically an emergency room. If you're worried about an unvaccinated child walking by you in a grocery store and coughing some measles or polio germs onto your baby, I would think you'd be 100 times more worried about taking your baby into an ER where people who are visibly sick with who-knows-what are all sitting in close quarters!

[BagongBuhay]

Originally Posted by beanandpumpkin

So... is handing a flyer to parents that says "this vaccine is deemed safe and effective by the FDA. A small number of children have mild side effects such as a sore arm or fussiness. A minute number of children may have more serious side effects. This vaccine is mandatory for your child to go to school." giving complete information? Because that is what pediatricians do every single day.

In the case of chemotherapy, a patient is choosing to use these harmful chemicals to try to treat a deadly disease that is already present in the body. A vaccine is injecting harmful chemicals to try to prevent a disease that a person may or may not be exposed to, and in most cases is not deadly or even terribly serious. There is a big difference. I assume you would not want to go through chemotherapy to *prevent* cancer.

I think you misunderstood my point. First I was talking about quantities of the ingredients. How does one know whether your organs can actually dispose of unused quantities or not? To me research would include looking up at what quantities those chemicals can do damage to the body and compare it with the quantities in the vaccine and then make a choice. At some point in time, we all have to defer to the experts as we are no experts in it, and yes eveything and everyone has a bias. I have to believe that pediatricians are not out there to harm your child. In their mind, getting vaccines is for the good of your child and it is incumbent upon them to pass this information to you. Whether you choose to listen to them or not in the end is still your resonsibility. For me, vaccines are insurance - getting something for an event you don't want to happen. Like most insurance, it is voluntary. Some insurance (like to drive a car) isn't. I would rather prevent something than cure something, and my personal experience shows that my family has not had any adverse reaction to any vaccine. It is a personal choice...it's good for some and not for others. I'll leave it at that.

[*Danielle*]

Originally Posted by beanandpumpkin

I have posted many links, as have other people. They are usually dismissed as "inaccurate" or "biased," as if the CDC website is not "biased." Everyone has a bias! The VAERS is a good place to start to see what types of reactions are possible. I've read balanced sources. There are many books available that discuss the dangers of the diseases in question as well as the dangers of the specific vaccines. I do not live in fear. There are certain vaccines that we made a decision not to give, period. I do not live in fear of the diseases, or of unvaccinated (or vaccinated-but-not-converted) children being near my children.

Someone posted that their three cihldren have all had reactions to vaccines. Would you say that her reasons for not vaccinating anymore are "fear based?" How is that any more "fear based" than someone saying "my two sisters died of polio, and now I make sure my kids get all of their vaccinations"?? Should that poster continue to pump her kids full of vaccinations that obviously are harmful TO THEM because a study of her particular children has not been done and published? Many people beleive that unless a doctor tells them so, they are unable and incompetent to pursue or decline treatment (of any sort) for their children. I remember telling our ped that no, thank you, I did not want to supplement my breastfed baby with iron, for example, and he was shocked. Is it truly shocking for a medical professional to have a parent not nod and say "okay doctor!" when an "order" is made?



I'm not the poster who posted about the kids with the side effects, but I personally would NEVER take a child to the ER who was not having a true emergency. The risks of having a swollen leg (which, really, what is an ER doctor going to do about that?), IMO, do not outweigh the risk of exposing a baby/toddler to all of the nasty germs in a hospital, specifically an emergency room. If you're worried about an unvaccinated child walking by you in a grocery store and coughing some measles or polio germs onto your baby, I would think you'd be 100 times more worried about taking your baby into an ER where people who are visibly sick with who-knows-what are all sitting in close quarters!

I would still love to see your links. I have not seen them. You have not given me a substantial reason why you did not vax except for "well she did it and this happend." What exactly did you base your decision on? That is all I want to know. Was it a specific side effect from a certian chemical in a vax? I am truely just curious...

About the swollen leg...TO TWICE IT'S SIZE. THat could be a very dangerous situation. Edema of any extremity could be indicitive of a bad bad problem, so yes, I would be in an ER for that one. Passing out? I think I would want a conclusive answer to that one as well. If my child was still passing out years later, I think I would demad some kind of work up or scan. That is not normal. I guess I rather would be proactive about my kids health then reactive....By the way, I am not worried about exposure to different germs in a grocery store or in an ER. My family is vaccinated and we are all healthy. The germs in an ER are everywhere outside of that ER...