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Old 09-07-2009, 03:30 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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What I dont understand is...why the slap? That just makes the kid cry/scream/ make more noise.
This guy wasnt thinking straight.
Why not grab some duct tape from the housewares department and stick it over the kid's mouth instead?
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Old 09-07-2009, 04:01 PM
 
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What I dont understand is...why the slap? That just makes the kid cry/scream/ make more noise.
This guy wasnt thinking straight.
Why not grab some duct tape from the housewares department and stick it over the kid's mouth instead?
Don't give any other crazy people ideas.
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Old 09-07-2009, 05:16 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Don't give any other crazy people ideas.
Awww. Party pooper.

We crazy people like sharing ideas.
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Old 09-07-2009, 06:31 PM
 
Location: in my mind
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What on earth is selfish about shopping with a 2 year old... what if you have four other kids and all these kids need FOOD FOR THE HOUSE?

I can't get over Malamute's attitude, as if you know for a fact this woman was out looking at purses.

Yes, I DO see a lot of people out and about, oblivious to their child's needs, and it makes me angry, but we do NOT know that about this woman and it doesn't matter because it never ever excuses someone else taking that kind of action.

I remember times where my child was cranky and we were in the store and I wanted nothing more than to leave the cart and go home, but as a single mother with 2 kids to feed there was no option but to try and get out of there as soon as possible, or there'd be no dinner that night.
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:55 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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What on earth is selfish about shopping with a 2 year old... what if you have four other kids and all these kids need FOOD FOR THE HOUSE?

I can't get over Malamute's attitude, as if you know for a fact this woman was out looking at purses.

Yes, I DO see a lot of people out and about, oblivious to their child's needs, and it makes me angry, but we do NOT know that about this woman and it doesn't matter because it never ever excuses someone else taking that kind of action.

I remember times where my child was cranky and we were in the store and I wanted nothing more than to leave the cart and go home, but as a single mother with 2 kids to feed there was no option but to try and get out of there as soon as possible, or there'd be no dinner that night.
Not that the 2 year old was doing this in this particular case, but I think its selfish to shop with ANY child that is shrieking at the top of its lungs.
A child's scream gets to be literally painful for me (Im sure Im not the only one), and I think its selfish for parents to subject others to that.
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Old 09-08-2009, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Not that the 2 year old was doing this in this particular case, but I think its selfish to shop with ANY child that is shrieking at the top of its lungs.
A child's scream gets to be literally painful for me (Im sure Im not the only one), and I think its selfish for parents to subject others to that.
Again, the article said the child was crying, not shrieking. They do that sometimes. AND usually us Mothers don't have the luxury of having someone take care of them so we can do things like grocery shopping.

I have panic attacks over constant noise but even I understand that children are noisy. I can leave the area if it gets too noisy for me. If this old bastard couldn't handle what is normal coming and going at the grocery store that day, he should have left. Because he was selfish and harmed a child he is where he should be, in jail.

I can't get over the arrogance that he warned her to begin with. Like everyone should stand at attention and bow to what he wants.
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Old 09-08-2009, 03:51 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Bolded by me, you are assuming alot about this mother. Most 2 yr olds have experience shopping and can handle it. Unless I see a link, I have yet to read whether this child could or not or was sick or not. I have yet to read that this mother was doing nothing to quiet her child. I've also yet to read that this mother was shopping for hours and hours. I do agree that she handled the situation improperly, but I wasn't there. Maybe she truly did care about imposing her crying child on others. Maybe she was overwhelmed and embarrassed as strangers glared. This isn't about whether or not she's a perfect parent. This is about a man crossing the line and slapping her child.
actually, the old man warned her "a couple of isles ago" to shut the kid up, so it's not like the kid just started crying.
I am definitely not agreeing with slapping some else's child, but to deny bail on such a charge is pretty obnoxious.
I wonder how many of you calling for this man's head are against the death penalty?
And what if it was the mom who slapped the kid? Just causing red marks is not child abuse in most states (at least not in Texas). Just saying....

My guess, given his advanced age, he will get probation or a suspended sentence and forced into counseling and anger mgmt classes.
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Old 09-08-2009, 03:53 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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You really have no idea and whats sad is you don't realize you have no idea and how foolish your words come across.

Its actually against the law to do what you suggest. Discrimination lawsuits would be everywhere and women would be boycotting the stores that did it. Who do you think buys the most groceries, men or women. Its women just in case your not bright enough to know that one.

AND when did it go from the baby was crying (as they do) to the baby was screaming. If your so intolerant maybe you should HIRE someone to do your shopping for you, since most of us Mothers don't have that luxury.
how is it discrimination to ask the parents of an unruly child to leave a business? pretty sure they have the right to refuse service to anyone.
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:44 AM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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I feel very sorry for all who have been so openly hateful on this thread. As I said, and apparently none of you read that....I do not approve, ( I said condone, but I don't think you know that word ),what the man did.
The reason I feel so sorry for you all is because I can foresee some type of affliction coming on you all, that meds have not helped, or may not have been prescribed. And I suspect what you are doling out will return to you, perhaps twofold!

If someone had slapped my child, or grandchild, as that man did that child, I would have been outraged...but I would not have inflicted any of the violent acts upon him that so many of you are saying you would!
Note, I said "slapped"? Nowhere does it say he "beat' the child. That would be a whole differant story. I would then be defending the life of the child!
I am not a lawyer, but I hope he gets a more compassionate lawyer than any of you!

I suspect you are the kind that block the isle to other shoppers, and are oblivious that anyone is in there other than you. Maybe you are on your cell phone also, and don't even hear anything else!

I am done with this thread.....may God have mercy on that man, and may He have mercy on all you mercilous posters!
Merely "outraged"? Gee, what would it take to get you all the way to "Pissed off"?

And I fail to see the distinction between slap and beat when the recipient is 2 years old and the perp is a 50+ year old stranger.

Compassion? He deserves none at all. A long jail sentence is the least he should get. Personally I'd still vote for 'off-with-his-head'.
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Old 09-08-2009, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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how is it discrimination to ask the parents of an unruly child to leave a business? pretty sure they have the right to refuse service to anyone.
So a crying 2 year old crying child is unruly to you??

You really have no idea how fast they would loose business and how quickly some lawyer would take them to court with a civil suit. If you don't get that, then I can't explain it any better.

Of course a business has a right to deny service, for example, I used to work in a mall, they escorted a man out who was speaking to his invisible friend, he was completely out of his mind. He was asked to NOT return. It was a popular decision because he was frightening the other people in the mall.

If a store were to take this action about Mothers with children, they would have no business left as WE are the ones who do most of the shopping in this world.
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