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Old 12-02-2009, 09:24 AM
 
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if he has sex, at 19 years old, with a 14 year old child... five years difference... it is statutory rape... YES that makes him a criminal.... he decided to make that CHOICE himself... nobody MADE him do anything... it is the law- a LAW to protect MINORS!!!!!
But the girl insists they didn't have sex!

I don't think it should be criminal in any state. Statutory rape shouldn't exist for sex between teenagers of any age.

I certainly don't think a teenage boy should be considered a sexual predator for life.
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Old 12-02-2009, 09:26 AM
 
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There are adults who don't fully realize the consquences of thier sexual actions.

This boy is 17 years old. If you read the entire thread, the OP has slightly twisted the facts througout the thread as it progressed.

She didn't claim there was a 5 year difference until I posted her state law that a 4 year difference isn't criminal.

Until then, the boy was 17----read her first post---daughter 14, boy 17.

I didn't catch where she said the boy was 19, but I did see where she claims there is a 5 year difference now.

Regardless, based on her first post, it's not criminal in her state.

You simply can't get 5 year span from 14 and 17.

Even if the girl just turned 14 and the boy is almost done being 17, that's only 4 years.

It seems that the OP is just wants to put all of the blame on the boy no matter what.

And I've known many worldly 14 year old girls---when I was growing up and today---who know darn well what they're doing when it comes to sex.
Oh my god I swear there are people here who just do not READ everything that is posted before typing. HE IS 18, will be 19 in 27 days! Got it? I didn't "twist the facts" , but discovered his age via Facebook. I
I'm not claiming my daughter is the sweet & innocent one by ANY means, so I wish posters would stop claiming that. But I knew when I posted this there would be people doing that, and I know there are "people" out there who think sex w/ children is OK. I'm not one of them.
Furthermore, just to clarify again, my daughter has been punished, both by the school & by me. Last I heard, the boy wasn't, because he clamined he was "sick" the morning they skipped school & went to his house.

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I wonder if the people that want to have the police involved have sons? If they did maybe they would see that boys are not the crazed predators that some believe they are.
I have 3 boys, ages 22, 6 & 2.
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Old 12-02-2009, 09:27 AM
 
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But the girl insists they didn't have sex!

I don't think it should be criminal in any state. Statutory rape shouldn't exist for sex between teenagers of any age.

I certainly don't think a teenage boy should be considered a sexual predator for life.
He was already warned to stay away from the child... if they had sex he should have charges filed against him... simple... He knew what he was doing- especially since her mother told him to stay away! If it was reversed- a grown woman going after a 14 year old boy I would be saying the SAME thing!
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Old 12-02-2009, 09:32 AM
 
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He was already warned to stay away from the child... if they had sex he should have charges filed against him... simple... He knew what he was doing- especially since her mother told him to stay away! If it was reversed- a grown woman going after a 14 year old boy I would be saying the SAME thing!
I think the OP is making the mistake of relying on others and not her daughter.

She can tell someone to stay away until she is blue in the face, but in the end it's her daughter she really needs to control.
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Old 12-02-2009, 09:36 AM
 
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I think the OP is making the mistake of relying on others and not her daughter.

She can tell someone to stay away until she is blue in the face, but in the end it's her daughter she really needs to control.
It would probably be easier to control her if there weren't a 19 yo man coercing her to go against her mother
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Old 12-02-2009, 09:44 AM
 
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I think the OP is making the mistake of relying on others and not her daughter.

She can tell someone to stay away until she is blue in the face, but in the end it's her daughter she really needs to control.
Ok, I am sick of this. I am aware of the fact that I need to "control" my daughter. Apparantly you didn't read ( surprise,surprise!) where I wrote this isn't her usual behavior. So stop trying to be among the posters trying to make my daugter into a sex-crazed tramp. Her previous boyfriend was a sweet 13 year old from a very nice family, and I trusted him w/ her becaue they were open about seeing each other, this MAN is the first time she's done anything so sneaky & underhanded.
My daughter made a mistake,a big one, & whether you nor anyone else likes it, the young MAN broke the LAW (that's assuming they did have sex).

Yeah, we could press charges, but didn't. THIS time.
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:03 AM
 
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....and I know there are "people" out there who think sex w/ children is OK. I'm not one of them.
There's a BIG difference between thinking sex with children is okay and thinking that consenting sex BETWEEN teenagers shouldn't be criminalized.
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:05 AM
 
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There's a BIG difference between thinking sex with children is okay and thinking that consenting sex BETWEEN teenagers shouldn't be criminalized.
This is a 19 year old a 14 year old... at 14 that child does not have the mental capacity to fully understand what she is doing... at 19 the man does... that is why there is a LAW... to protect the innocence of that 14 year old who does not know better.... simple...
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:16 AM
 
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Apparantly you didn't read ( surprise,surprise!) where I wrote this isn't her usual behavior. So stop trying to be among the posters trying to make my daugter into a sex-crazed tramp. Her previous boyfriend was a sweet 13 year old from a very nice family, and I trusted him w/ her becaue they were open about seeing each other, this MAN is the first time she's done anything so sneaky & underhanded.
I did read that it wasn't her usual behavior. That's why I posted my opinion that you should be focusing on HER and not wasting your time on the boy. It sends the message to her that it's not her fault. Losing a cell phone is not a big punishment for what she did.

I'm not saying that she's a sex-crazed tramp. But she is 14. And you couldn't have said it better, this is her FIRST time. You have a LONG way to go until she's 18. You can't base her teenage behavior on past sweetness. This could be just the start. My kids never cut school at such a young age---or any age for that matter. I have a fear that you'll look back on this and wish you had seen the red flag. Send her a strong message from the start---and that message should hold her 100% accountable for herself. Otherwise, your message isn't strong enought.

All this girl is hearing from you is how terrible THIS BOY is. In her mind, that means that it's okay to do this with a sweet 13 year old boy from a very nice family. THAT'S what you're implying when you spend your efforts trashing this boy and pointing out his "true colors." I wish you would realize it.

I'm not posting here to trash your daughter. I'm trashing your handling of this situation if anything.
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:18 AM
 
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I don't think the boy should be charged, neither does the OP. But, it does need to be pointed out that if the 18yr old was a girl and the 14yr old a boy, the law would still apply as far as I know.
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