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Old 04-20-2010, 11:00 AM
 
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I did email the pediatrician, but they never responded... not even to say, "seems normal". Nothing. Will probably try again or just wait until her next visit in nine months.
I would never email a doctor about something important. I would CALL the pediatrician's office. Your emails could be going into his spam folder.
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Old 04-20-2010, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Nova
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This pediatrician's office prefers that we email non-urgent requests and they say they will respond with 48 hours. It's a group of doctors and nurses. Figured I'd follow their procedure and then call if they don't respond (which they haven't now). :-(
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:42 PM
 
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As someone who has suffered w/ OCD my entire life, take her to the doctor & have them nip it in the bud early. In the meantime, try to see what she is anxious about. She is doing these routines because she truly believes that by not doing them, something will happen. Try to find out what that something is. It might be several things. Don't feed into her "obsessions" it makes it worse. Try to assure her that whatever she is worried about will not be prevented by doing these routines. In fact, if you go on wikipedia, it has a good info about OCD. By the way, you cannot "discipline" this behavior out of her.
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:12 PM
 
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I used to suffer from OCD for years ( and still do, although I learned to "control" it, so it's not nearly as bad as it was before ). Just by reading your post, her behavior seems like a typical OCD behavior to me - however, I'm a little confused being that she's only three years old. I started showing OCD symptoms when I was 12. I used to do everything in 3s - brush my teeth 3 times, wash my hands 3 times etc. Whatever the case may be, talk to your pediatrician as soon as you can. And like cat24 said, do not feed into her obsessions. My husband also suffers from anxiety/mild OCD and I would feed into his obsessions and vice versa. However, all of our counselors told us that we're just making things worse by doing that. We were basically reinforcing each others' OCD behaviors. Good Luck...
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:46 PM
 
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My husband also suffers from anxiety/mild OCD and I would feed into his obsessions and vice versa. However, all of our counselors told us that we're just making things worse by doing that. We were basically reinforcing each others' OCD behaviors.
That's so true! My son has anxiety disorders----general, social, trichotillomania (but he overcame that a few years ago). Obsessive thoughts were the worst with the trich. He'd be so upset and worried. I'd reassure him. Seemed like the right thing to do when a child is upset and worried. Then I learned that reassuring is reinforcing the obsessive thoughts. My other big problem was learning to not rescue him when he had panic attacks in social situations. He would call in a panic and I would go pick him up. WRONG WRONG WRONG thing to do. That reinforces the fear and makes it harder to return to a similar uncomfortable situation. Then the obsessive thoughts start when he's anticipating an uncomfortable situation. It's all maddening. I've never experienced it myself, only through helping him. I don't know he survives it. I admire him for being such a strong person. He has made such great strides.
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Old 04-27-2010, 08:27 AM
 
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It's possible she could have OCD... I would keep an eye out for other ritualistic behaviors or hair pulling, scalp scraping, skin picking, etc. Otherwise it could just be the normal quirks of a 3 year old.
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Old 04-28-2010, 08:24 PM
 
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she may have a mild to serious case of OCD or other psychological disorder such as mild aspergers. check out a doctor then psychologist.
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Old 04-28-2010, 08:40 PM
 
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I haven't gone to the pediatrician yet because I wanted to see if this is a normal process of asserting independence or tryin gto control as kahskye mentioned.

I am in control, as is my husband on most things with her. We know we are the parents and must be, but there are these wierd instances where I'm not sure if it is a control issue or not based on her desperation and extreme reactions, as compared to the normal... she wants something, but she doesn't get it her way because she's not the boss.
If you take her to a pediatrician for this he/she will only end up writing a prescription that will result in your child being medicated and dulled. I don't think you would want that for her - not to mention the possibility of dangerous side effects that nearly ALL medications carry these days.

It does sound like she has strong OCD tendencies. For HER sake, it might be a good idea to work toward mediating these issues NOW before she goes to school and she has constant problems dealing with others, life and the educational system.

My thoughts are that you might want to consult with a good naturopathic or holistic practitioner who can suggest natural treatments which could help. There is a strong possibility that this behavior might be linked to a food allergy. Also, there are natural options available to treat this type of problem. My husband is OCD and on really bad days he takes St. John's Wort and it helps DRAMATICALLY. I would not recommend this for a child because I am not an herbalist or holistic practitioner - I am just giving you an example. There are also vitamin supplements which have been proven to help. It certainly is worth a try and beats pumping deadly chemicals into your child.

You might also want to consult with a behaviorist who might be able to assist you in guiding your daughter. OCD has been around for a long time and there has been methods developed which can help. Most mental health centers would be able to assist you in locating a behaviorist or behavioral counselor.

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Old 04-29-2010, 09:27 AM
 
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Thanks 20yrsinBranson...(and everyone else). I have tried to push her a little bit in her behaviors as far as the number of sips she takes and the order we do her bedtime routine (like we'll brush her teeth before getting her PJs on- which we usually do in reverse) and she's been ok with this. I'm still going to watch her, but have decided to not to bring her to her pediatrician yet since she seems ok with deviating from her rituals. I kind of want to "test" her longer and get my notes together.
I think she definitely has her wierd or strict rituals and attititude that her rituals are "right", but I do think there is some normal trying to push the 3 yr old boundaries of control here too.

And you're right 20yrs.... I don't want her medicated for something that could be handled though a behavioral counseler or such. I'm just as weary with holistic supplements as I am with traditional ones actually.
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Old 04-30-2010, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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My daughter is kind of the same way. She wants to do certain things before we go to bed like read 3 books and make a Krabby patty like Sponge Bob which pretty much consists of me putting her between two pillows and carry her to bed.

I had to make a Krabby Patty for like a month straight and she got pretty upset if I didnt do it for her and she always reminded me before bed. But that lasted a month and we dont do it much any more.

But reading 3 books before bed is something she still wants to do.
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