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Old 06-29-2010, 04:04 PM
 
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LOL, I agree with this. It seem so many parents think their child can do no wrong, I'm not saying a child will be perfect but DAMN! When you let your child run all over the resturant and THEN get angry when someone tells you make your child sit down[so that they don't get hot food spilled all over them, or cause someone elses meal to be dumped], there is an issue. When your child goes to someone elses table and picks their nose and smears it on yoru table[did not personally happen to me but read about a couple that it did] and you get mad when they say something, I have an issue. When your child is screaming and throwing sh(i)(t) all over the place and you just laugh away, I have a problem. If you cannot teach your child better than that, get your food to go. I realize at a family resturant there will be children, but If I go to a fine dining, or upscale establishment, I don't expect to see children there(there is probably nothing on the menu that a child would even appreciate anyway).

I once read a story about a woman whose meal was ruined by a couple w/ a child and she told the server to put her meal on their tab. I know those ppl werent happy. She said "since you were kind enough to ruin my meal, I thought you'd be nice and pay for my lunch".
where on earth do you find these establishments where kids run around picking their noses. i mean, let's be real...the worse i have ever encountered is a screaming kid. how bad is that? usually parents are mortified and do everything they can to salvage the situation, which in most cases they end up taking the food to go and leave. also, fine dining or upscale establishment...where? in LI? i haven't seen one single fine dining place or an upscale place, well, maybe one in almost 2 years.

 
Old 06-29-2010, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Southwest Louisiana
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where on earth do you find these establishments where kids run around picking their noses. i mean, let's be real...the worse i have ever encountered is a screaming kid.I personally have never encountered this, this was actually on a page of people ranting on how they hate children that I read about that lol. Usually the worse I see myself is a screaming kid. I know some parents try their best to console the child, but then there are those parents who don't give a damn and THAT is what the OP is referring to. how bad is that? usually parents are mortified and do everything they can to salvage the situation, which in most cases they end up taking the food to go and leave. also, fine dining or upscale establishment...where? in LI? i haven't seen one single fine dining place or an upscale place, well, maybe one in almost 2 years.
As for fine dining, I'm just talking about in general, it doesnt have to be a particular location. I live in Louisiana,and there are not too many of them in my area, but occasionally you'll come across one, OR just an event that should be adults only. When adults get together to mingle w/ adults, they do not want to worry about watching what they say in front of a child.
 
Old 06-29-2010, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Southwest Louisiana
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GAH! You had to bring that up. When I got married, my invitation clearly said, "Adult reception at 7:00 p.m." Oh, the outrage expressed by some of the parents on my ex's side! You'd think I'd told their kids there was no Santa! And we're talking parents of kids who ranged in age from 2 to 14.

Right. They weren't paying for the wedding, so we just ignored it and let his parents tell them tough noogs. If they were so insulted, they didn't have to come to the wedding--hey, less plates for me to pay for or more room for old college buddies.

Then there were the other parents, many of whom had toddlers, who were like, "Thank you. It will be nice to have a night out with grown-ups." They were glad that they wouldn't have to deal with their kids getting cranky for being up past their bedtimes or worry about their kids seeing people get bombed.

I will never understand people who feel that children should be toted around everywhere like living accessories. Sorry, but not every event is appropriate for children. That's why there's such a thing as an R rating at the movies.
THANK YOU!!!!! We need to stop being so afraid to say "this is not for kids" I mean even up to the 90s we didnt have this issue. "This is grown folks talk, go play w/ the other kids" "this music is for adults do not listen to this" "this is an adult event"

You know? Why has that become so difficult now? Now we got little five year olds talking to you like they are 30...ummm I don't think so. It's not cute, nor was it ever.
 
Old 06-29-2010, 08:32 PM
 
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oh good, this thread is back
 
Old 06-29-2010, 08:56 PM
 
Location: NY in body, Mayberry in spirit.
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If my daughter were to have behavioral problems while out - I would simply escort her out and give her a chance to calm down. If that failed, I'd simply have my wife have the server make two doggy-bags out of our meals and exit the establishment.[/quote]


That's because you are decent and respectful people. Honestly, how many people do you know who would do the same?
 
Old 06-29-2010, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Huntington
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where on earth do you find these establishments where kids run around picking their noses. i mean, let's be real...the worse i have ever encountered is a screaming kid. how bad is that? usually parents are mortified and do everything they can to salvage the situation, which in most cases they end up taking the food to go and leave. also, fine dining or upscale establishment...where? in LI? i haven't seen one single fine dining place or an upscale place, well, maybe one in almost 2 years.
After reading this long thread, I can't help but comment.

I took my aunt to lunch at Prime restaurant about 2 months ago, and we ate in their dining room. This lunch was meant to be a treat since her husband had just passed away about 2 months before. This restaurant is way more upscale than Olive Garden or something along those lines, which is more family oriented and where you wouldn't be surprised to see little kids running around. It was a lovely meal at Prime until two women brought in three young children about 3, 4, and 5 years old. Those kids never stopped banging the utensils for their percussion concert. Headache inducing. It went on until we left - roughly 15 minutes for us, and who knows how long for the other diners. And the moms never stopped them nor reprimanded them even once. No amount of stares did the trick of giving the moms the hint they were disturbing others. And I don't live in Louisiana. This was in Halesite. Prime is rather upscale and it's not a typical family restaurant.

I have to disagree about parents being mortified when their brats annoy other patrons and ruin their meals. They're not mortified or concerned at all. Any time I see kids walking/running around a nice restaurant I know exactly what kind of parent they have: lazy. And unconcerned. And selfish. It's all about them and their fabulous kid, who aren't any more fabulous than any other kid. BTW, one time someone's brat actually stopped at our table in a LI restaurant (not a fast food) and blew soap bubbles onto our plates. Ruined our dinner. Parents didn't react. You don't want to know what I thought of them.

Ah, the doting parent. You know the type; they're the ones who have all kinds of excuses when their brat/child throws rocks at a window, breaks the window, they're caught, and the doting parent has all kinds of excuses/denials for their little darling's behavior. They have no consideration for anyone else. Their children can do no wrong. That type of behavior is rampant unfortunately. The same doting parent who lets their kids ruin other people's meals with their screaming, running, temper tantrums, etc. You'll hear from these types of doters that "kids will be kids" or "boys will be boys." Two examples of their copping out on their responsibilities as good parents. Why don't they have the common sense to leave their ill-behaved brats home? I know, I know, you think I'm prejudiced against out of control kids - actually that's not the case. The kids would be fine if they had decent parenting. Perhaps these all-about-me parents ought to watch one of those nanny shows on TV and pick up some parenting skills and common sense and consideration for others.

When my kids were small we were invited to a number of adult-only catered affairs, and when we couldn't get a sitter we stayed home. We weren't about to go against the wishes of the people who invited us. To bring our unwanted kids would have been very disrespectful to the hosts. After all they didn't have to bother to invite us at all. For those of you out there who disagree and would foist your unwanted kids on a catered affair or party, there's a word for you: chutzpah.

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Old 06-29-2010, 09:11 PM
 
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I treated my aunt to lunch at Prime restaurant about 2 months ago, and we ate in their dining room. This restaurant is way more upscale than Olive Garden or something along those lines, which is more family oriented and where you wouldn't be surprised to see little darlings running around. It was a lovely meal until two women brought in three young children about 3, 4, and 5 years old. Those kids never stopped banging the utensils for their percussion concert. Headache inducing. It went on until we left. And the moms never stopped them nor reprimanded them even once. No amount of stares did the trick of giving the moms the hint they were disturbing others. And I don't live in Louisiana. This was in Halesite.

I have to disagree about parents being mortified when their brats annoy other patrons and ruin their meals. They're not mortified or concerned at all. Any time I see kids walking/running around a nice restaurant I know exactly what kind of parent they have: lazy. And unconcerned. And selfish. It's all about them and their fabulous kid, who aren't any more fabulous than any other kid. BTW, one time someone's brat actually stopped at our table in a LI restaurant and blew soap bubbles onto our plates. Ruined our dinner. Parents didn't react. You don't want to know what I thought of them.

Ah, the doting parent. You know the type; they're the ones who have all kinds of excuses when their brat/child throws rocks at a window, breaks the window, they're caught, and the doting parent has all kinds of excuses/denials for their little darling's behavior. They have no consideration for anyone else. That type of behavior is rampant unfortunately. The same doting parent who lets their kids ruin other people's meals with their screaming, running, temper tantrums, etc. Why don't they have the common sense to leave their ill-behaved brats home?
Really? How many of your meals have been ruined by these 'brats' over the years? I completely understand that kids probably shouldn't be at a place like Prime but by your post it sounds like this issue happens very often for you. I go out a decent amount to all levels of places, I am sure I have seen kids act up and probably seen parents not taking their handling the situation the way they should but I cant remember one time that someone else's kid "ruined" my meal. I wonder why?
 
Old 06-29-2010, 11:10 PM
 
Location: NY in body, Mayberry in spirit.
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Really? How many of your meals have been ruined by these 'brats' over the years? I completely understand that kids probably shouldn't be at a place like Prime but by your post it sounds like this issue happens very often for you. I go out a decent amount to all levels of places, I am sure I have seen kids act up and probably seen parents not taking their handling the situation the way they should but I cant remember one time that someone else's kid "ruined" my meal. I wonder why?

Why do you feel you have to question how someone else reacts to a given situation.? If you have more tolerence for bad behavior than someone else, bully for you. Other people may feel that a little bit of manners is not such an extrodinary expectation.
 
Old 06-29-2010, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Princeton, NJ
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Wow.. lots of parents are strange.
If I acted like a little **** at a restaurant, my parents would have never put up with that and I remembered being punished anytime I acted as such.
Long Island is being overrun by yuppies and their bratty kids.
 
Old 06-29-2010, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I don't know why there's so much surprise at irresponsible parents out there when you know damn well some adults can't even do right on their own. How many times do you shake your head at adults, let alone out-of-control children?
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