Census 2010: Pennsylvania (Erie, York, Beaver: population, counties, place)

[Craziaskowboi]

Originally Posted by ki0eh

I suspect a lot of that is due to PA occupying land that is exurban sprawl zone for out of state cities such as Baltimore, NY City, and Wilmington.

But why Pennsylvania? Why doesn't New York sprawl up into its upstate? Why doesn't Baltimore sprawl across other parts of Maryland first?

[pman]

Originally Posted by ki0eh

I suspect a lot of that is due to PA occupying land that is exurban sprawl zone for out of state cities such as Baltimore, NY City, and Wilmington. I don't think movement for the shale drilling into the Northern Tier showed up much by 4/1/10, my feeling is Tioga's minor increase was from retirees resettling.

wilmington is a suburb of Philadelphia. if anything, they benefit from being in the philadelphia area rather than vice versa. by not getting worse, PA got better. it's surrounded by basket case states like nj, md, ny, and oh.
gnutella-where you do you get the domestic migration rates?

[pcity]

Originally Posted by Gnutella

But why Pennsylvania? Why doesn't New York sprawl up into its upstate? Why doesn't Baltimore sprawl across other parts of Maryland first?

- Both of those cities have sprawled into other parts of their states already. In Baltimore's case, they can't sprawl south because of DC, and they can't sprawl east because of the bay, so they sprawl north instead.

- PA tends to have a lower tax burden than NY or MD.

- PA puts up less roadblocks to developers compared to NY, MD, or NJ.

[ki0eh]

Originally Posted by pcity

- PA puts up less roadblocks to developers compared to NY, MD, or NJ.

This. In the gogo years I worked for a couple of Hagerstown developers on several sites - in PA and WV.

[Craziaskowboi]

Originally Posted by pman

gnutella-where you do you get the domestic migration rates?

<-- click here

According to that chart, Pennsylvania's net domestic migration between 2004 and 2009 was +3.

[mams1559]

The eastern half of the state saw gain... however, the western part (where I live, esp.) saw nothing but loss.

Example ... Johnstown's population (within city limits) has dropped to just under 20,000 ... from a high in 1950 of 60,000 and a high in 1930 of 75,000. Between 2000 and 2010 it's a 17% decline.

Cambria county is roughly at 148,000 ... down from ~153,000 a 5.6% decline. If it's not reversed by next census we'll drop from a 4th class county to a 5th class county.

All western counties saw population decrease. Gloomy economic future doesn't help. No jobs = no people. Aging population and no "new blood" to fill the vacancies. We're becoming a ghost town.

[Craziaskowboi]

Originally Posted by mams1559

All western counties saw population decrease.

False. Butler and Washington Counties both grew.

[mams1559]

Originally Posted by Gnutella

False. Butler and Washington Counties both grew.

Oops...my bad. However, that's probably from folks leaving Allegheny County. It's not enough to write home about.

[Craziaskowboi]

It appears that the Pennsylvania portion of the Philadelphia MSA has passed the 4,000,000 mark.

Philadelphia: 1,526,006
Montgomery County: 799,874
Bucks County: 625,249
Delaware County: 558,979
Chester County: 498,894

TOTAL: 4,009,002

In 2000, the population of the Pennsylvania portion was 3,849,647. This means that the population increased by 159,355 people (+4.1%) by 2010.

[wanderer34]

Originally Posted by Gnutella

Hispanic population

Ohio: 3.1%
Pennsylvania: 5.7%

I would think that the Latino percentage, collectively, would be at 8% of PA's population as opposed to the pitiful 5.7% the census put down. Hopefully there will be a recount and it will correctly portray the Latino population, as they've grown very considerably!!!!!