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Old 09-11-2006, 12:59 PM
 
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Would like to hear any thoughts or comments on the proposed casinos that may be going up in the lehigh valley area (allentown and bethlehem)...and also the ones that are going up in the poconos.

I have some thoughts..but would like to hear all points of views from the locals and the surrounding counties.....
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Old 09-11-2006, 05:47 PM
 
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This is a short-sighted way to make property taxes lower to please the retired voting bloc (huge in PA). I think the increased costs in cops, prostitution, homelessness, bankruptcy, etc. will far outweigh any short-term tax benefit.

But that's just my opinion. I'm very anti-gambling. (See people I'm not a liberal on everything! )
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Old 09-11-2006, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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My first response: Awesome! I like casinos (although I watch more than I play), and good casinos usually have good shows. Plus this will mean more jobs for local folks, and it will increase tourism, bringing more money to the area.

Second response, after reading mjk's response: ew, he's right. Well, I'm basing this opinion on Atlantic City and Vegas, both places have great casinos, great shows...but crime is pretty bad in both place.

So I guess I would be for it, but only if there are plans to control crime (increase in police force, zero tolerance for certain crimes).
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Old 09-11-2006, 07:10 PM
 
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This is also part of the West Virginia-ization of most of PA (Southeastern parts and the Harrisburg area excepted). The industrial jobs are gone and the gov't is desperately looking for something to take their place.

Unfortunately, unlike the heavy industries of yore, casino gambling is not a productive economic activity. It provides jobs and tax money in the short run but long term, well, as the previous poster said, just look at Atlantic City.
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Old 09-13-2006, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Florida
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They have tried over the years to bring that to Fla and it's been overwhelmingly rejected every time.

Good.


I am trying to get more info about it and where in the Poconos it's being located as my Wife and I are/were actually thinking about buying a place in the Poconos as a getway type cabin, 2nd house. But if there's casinos being built there, then our investment dollars will not see Pa. That would be a shame.
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Old 09-13-2006, 12:08 PM
 
Location: northeastern Pennsylvania
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My husband and I don't want to see the casinos. We are originally from NJ and heard all about the good the casinos would do for Atlantic City. As far as we are concerned, that was a big joke. I really don't think we are going to see any good come from them here in Pa. either. Just my opinion.
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Old 09-15-2006, 11:27 AM
 
Location: South Central PA
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Gettysburg casino.... wow. Talk about destroying a community. The main argument they have is that it isn't on the battlefield. The problem though, is the entire area is the battlefield. Just because it isn't owned by the park system dosen't mean there weren't people that camped there, marched there, fought and died there.

In gettysburg, it's the 4th lowest unemployment rate in the state and 10th wealthiest, yet they are advocating great jobs and more jobs. Infact the salaries they are going to pay will bring down the average pay, and create an influx of residents increasing unemployment.

Traffic is already horrible because of tourists, and then they want to just make that year round instead of seasonal. It's just a horrible idea. Only places they make sense is in the cities that are already dieing such as Pittsburgh.
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Old 09-15-2006, 11:38 AM
 
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Infact the salaries they are going to pay will bring down the average pay, and create an influx of residents increasing unemployment.
That won't bother those in power. However, I doubt gambling is a big scheme to lower wages. They do want to bring in people though, young people specifically, wage-earners. PA's long-term tax situation is dire - the state's demographics are positively European (many old, few young).
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Old 09-16-2006, 08:24 AM
 
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People who live in any area where there are proposals to build casinos can stop it from happening. In neighboring Limerick Township (Montgomery County) the people went ballistic when it was going to become the site of a casino....guess what? It is NOT happening because the residents went nuts (I didn't want to see it happen either)! Unfortunately, casinos will get pushed through in PA where the residents are disenfranchised from their local political machines. That's why trash to steam plants, landfills, and major interstate highways are rarely in weathy areas...money talks.
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Old 09-16-2006, 08:26 AM
 
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Although Limerick Township is the site of a huge nuclear power plant...but 30 years ago, there were few residents there to fight it and it was largely agricultural. Times change!
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