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Old 10-27-2006, 02:39 PM
 
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God only know who would spraypaint such a sign seeing how so many people have relatives in BOTH states up here LOL! Some people here are quite upset that the housing market has taken off due to demand by Nyers for summer homes and commuting homes but that sign seems like the works of the local village idiots.

If you want to see a really VILE spraypainted sign, drive up I-81 towards Syracuse. There is a roadsign near Tully/Homer that reads:

"Welcome to the Onondaga nation. Home to murderers, rapists and thieves protected by George Pataki" I saw it and my jaw nearly fell through the floor of the car. There is more on the sign, but I did not care to stop and read it. It is on the Northbound lane, right hand side of the road up on a hill.

What I want to know is why it was up there for an extended period of time, at least 4 months. At least the one here has been taken down and replaced!

No offense to you Wiinnie because you don't sound like the typical Pennsylvanian, but I sure wish there was a sign on 276 when I moved down here, lol. "New Yorkers - GO HOME!". I would have stopped, got out my own spray paint and put "thanks for the warning". It would have saved me the last 6 years of mental anguish.
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Old 10-27-2006, 06:16 PM
 
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God only know who would spraypaint such a sign seeing how so many people have relatives in BOTH states up here LOL! Some people here are quite upset that the housing market has taken off due to demand by Nyers for summer homes and commuting homes but that sign seems like the works of the local village idiots.
There you go: locals are "idiots." Protect the carpet-bagging, seasonal New Yawkers but diss the locals and blame them for something that only popped up after the people who came in, demanded little new yawk and then left when the season was over.

It must always be the "locals," even though such problems were minimumal until every New yawker with cash came in with that "local idiot" snootiness, looking down at the people who spend 365, 24-7 in the area and give a **** about it and don't immediately jump ship when things go south.

I agree with your observation on the spray painted sign up towards Syracuse. From what I understand there have been attempts toget rid of the sign but the owner put it up there and it is his constitutionally protected right (even in this constitution-destroying Bush administrative era). That truly is one local idiot, but he has that right to be an idiot. Good thing he advertises that he is.


however, the sign mentioend about PA to carpetbaggers is wholly valid. I've yet to meet a New Yawk transplant in the area who doesn't look down upon the locals with contempt and basically wants to turn the region into Long Island II, and once their mass exodus drives property rates up and most locals who can afford to leave (as opposed to go brankrupt and live in their hometown that was destroyed by rich outsiders, rather than developed and shared) leave - the carpet baggers start thinking about a new, "cheaper," area to do the same thing.

S. S. D. S.


I think that sign speaks volumes of an underlying problem that the locals want addressed, but as per usual, the carpet baggers ignore it, since it's NOT their HOME. It's simply their little nook for seasonal purposes, and they have little regards or respect for the people who truly do make the area their home and have to deal with the aftermath of what's left behind when the new yawkers conveniently go back home for a while.

These are the last days of NEPA being NEPA, I believe. Within a decade it will be a bland region that is little more than another Long Island, with all the problems and ills that go with it (and the same poor attitudes, too).

I look forward to enjoying the area for what it is, while it lasts, since it's clear that the New Yawkers are bent on culturally pillaging it into oblivion... IMO.

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Old 10-27-2006, 06:39 PM
 
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No offense to you Wiinnie because you don't sound like the typical Pennsylvanian, but I sure wish there was a sign on 276 when I moved down here, lol. "New Yorkers - GO HOME!". I would have stopped, got out my own spray paint and put "thanks for the warning". It would have saved me the last 6 years of mental anguish.

This is a precise example of why someone probably painted the sign in the first place: that New Yawk arrogance and contempt towards all that is not "New Yawk." Why leave New Yawk in the first place?
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Old 10-27-2006, 07:14 PM
 
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This is a precise example of why someone probably painted the sign in the first place: that New Yawk arrogance and contempt towards all that is not "New Yawk." Why leave New Yawk in the first place?
Actually no.

I've been to, and like..

Georgia
North Carolina
South Carolina
Alabama
Massachusetts
Houston, Texas

It's really just PA that I don't like
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Old 10-28-2006, 02:19 PM
 
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Wait a minute here...I did not call all the people here idiots, have you not heard the term "village idiot"??? Every town has one or two or ten....

I have family from NE PA and I grew up the first 4 years of my life in Delaware county so I do not carry a condescending attitude towards people here unless they act like idiots or make snide comments about the house I can afford.

I have never been to Starbucks. I don't shop for clothes much, maybe once a year. I don't want any convienences - not even a diner - where I live. I have also lived in many states and never had a condescending attitude towards the locals.

NYers are unfairly stereotyped in this area. People think that just because you come in with NY plates and buy a house here means that you want people to throw roses and put on the ritz when that is the very thing MOST of us are trying to escape.
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Old 10-28-2006, 02:25 PM
 
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No offense to you Wiinnie because you don't sound like the typical Pennsylvanian, but I sure wish there was a sign on 276 when I moved down here, lol. "New Yorkers - GO HOME!". I would have stopped, got out my own spray paint and put "thanks for the warning".
If I spraypainted a sign with my luck I would get caught LOL!

What is funny is that for most of the last 10 years of my life I have lived outside of NY, and being military we happen to be stationed in NY right now. I don't even have a NY accent, people who meet me swear that I am either European or from TX. I guess that is what happens when a upstate NY accent gets mixed with TX, NM and Massachusettes accents LOL! Sometimes I don't even understand myself...
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Old 10-28-2006, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Florida but not for long :) :)
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Thumbs down Hey, stop being so closed-minded here!

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It must always be the "locals," even though such problems were minimumal until every New yawker with cash came in with that "local idiot" snootiness, looking down at the people who spend 365, 24-7 in the area and give a **** about it and don't immediately jump ship when things go south.


however, the sign mentioend about PA to carpetbaggers is wholly valid. I've yet to meet a New Yawk transplant in the area who doesn't look down upon the locals with contempt and basically wants to turn the region into Long Island II, and once their mass exodus drives property rates up and most locals who can afford to leave (as opposed to go brankrupt and live in their hometown that was destroyed by rich outsiders, rather than developed and shared) leave - the carpet baggers start thinking about a new, "cheaper," area to do the same thing.

S. S. D. S.


I think that sign speaks volumes of an underlying problem that the locals want addressed, but as per usual, the carpet baggers ignore it, since it's NOT their HOME. It's simply their little nook for seasonal purposes, and they have little regards or respect for the people who truly do make the area their home and have to deal with the aftermath of what's left behind when the new yawkers conveniently go back home for a while.

These are the last days of NEPA being NEPA, I believe. Within a decade it will be a bland region that is little more than another Long Island, with all the problems and ills that go with it (and the same poor attitudes, too).

Well I guess you haven't met me!!! I am from New York originally. Was born in NYC and grew up in Brooklyn then Queens, lived in Jersey and now Florida.
I am moving to NEPA in the spring. I am not like that and take offense to what you write about New York people. Do you remember 911? Did you see everybody helping and caring for one another that day?
This is America and it is home to all of us no matter where we choose to live.
You need to be more open-minded and give people a chance. Bet you didn't get along with everybody you grew up with, Ha? I didn't always like everybody either and they were from NY or wherever.
Just smile and be happy we are still here on G O D's great earth!
Peace out!
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Old 10-28-2006, 05:28 PM
 
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Smile Very Well Said, Rosanna!

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Well I guess you haven't met me!!! I am from New York originally. Was born in NYC and grew up in Brooklyn then Queens, lived in Jersey and now Florida.
I am moving to NEPA in the spring. I am not like that and take offense to what you write about New York people. Do you remember 911? Did you see everybody helping and caring for one another that day?
This is America and it is home to all of us no matter where we choose to live.
You need to be more open-minded and give people a chance. Bet you didn't get along with everybody you grew up with, Ha? I didn't always like everybody either and they were from NY or wherever.
Just smile and be happy we are still here on G O D's great earth!
Peace out!

Rosanna, you're about to get one big positive rep boost from me from that well thought-out reply! Just today at Lowe's I must have helped a full DOZEN people with NY/NJ license plates load purchases either into or onto their vehicles, and not even one of them gave me an "attitude" or seemed to think they were "above" me just because the general consensus is that people from NY/NJ are generally more affluent, and therefore "snobbier" than people from PA. (Even though a large percentage of locals like to try to "outdo" each other with the more expensive hood ornament, judging by the fact that a full 3/4 of the parking lot at any given time today was filled with vehicles costing in excess of $25,000!)

Being a native Pennsylvanian, I can tell you that I've come across many more rude locals than I have rude tourists/transplants. When you consider just how many locals form negative stereotypes about any concept that is foreign to them (be it gays, Liberals, home-schooling, alternative religions, or...gasp...even New Yorkers), then you can truly see who the "worse" of two evils truly is! I can't believe so many local people are willing to act so rudely to their fellow human beings from NY/NJ just because they are moving in to try to better their families' qualities of life. I can guarantee that any one of these locals would take the SAME relocation plunge to another state if it meant that their children could grow up amid cherry trees instead of urine-scented curbs, random gunshots, and traffic congestion. This is your classic case of "I found my paradise, now NIMBY to everyone else who wants the same!" (NIMBY=Not In My BackYard).

Rosanna, and my fellow friends from NY/NJ, yes, admittedly from working at Lowe's, you ARE a very noticeably "loud" people, but I embrace you all and welcome you to our area! Unlike most of my fellow locals, I know that for every one dirtbag from NY/NJ who moves here to peddle heroin, there are 100 others from these areas who are moving here in search of a better life!

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Old 10-28-2006, 09:49 PM
 
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I am not like that and take offense to what you write about New York people.
I was born and raised in Bensonhurst. I moved away when I was in Jr. high school. I returned to live and work there for a short time when I graduated Unviersity many, many moons ago.

As a NYer I know when NYawker colors shine through and it's astonishingly embarassing. A blight. I see it every time I go to NEPA to check it out (where I live, I can conveniently drive to Scranton and spend the weekend, which I've been doing for a while now, as I prepare to move there to LIVE aAND OWRK. Not to work elsewhere and simply use it as a dumping ground like most NYawkers.

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Do you remember 911? Did you see everybody helping and caring for one another that day?
Cheap shot. As someone who lost family at the WTC I resent you brigning that line of Bulls@#t up to paint your pedestrian argument about how great NY and NYawkers are supposed to be.

Way to triviliaze a national tragedy for a cheap argument....

If it's so great, why don't you go back there? If it's so great, why are people fleeing to NEPA and upstate NY?

I rest my case.


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This is America and it is home to all of us no matter where we choose to live.
You need to be more open-minded and give people a chance. Bet you didn't get along with everybody you grew up with, Ha? I didn't always like everybody either and they were from NY or wherever.
Just smile and be happy we are still here on G O D's great earth!
Peace out!

I agree wit this, however the NEPA situation is rich, white yuppies buying seasonal homes or creating urban sprawl and denigrating locals.

it cuts both ways - the animosity. As a former NYer I have seen the ignorance many NYawkers have about thier arrogance. It takes tiem for them to change, but it rarely happens, ebcause personal change requires effort. If they cared about making life better they'd have stayed in NYC and tried to make it better. Instead, they try to create little NYCs form the ground up.

The majority of those carpet baggers come to NEPA because it's becoming their new New Yawk, as opposed to going to NEPA for NEPA.

They are not coming so they can make NEPA better without asking it to abandon what makes it unique. They are coming and forging thier own enclaves and when they have the dollar power over the working class locals they will force their s@#t on the area and drive people away again.

Those are facts.

Do I hate NYawkers on sight/encounter? Nope. I give everybody a chance one-on-one, but I have seen how mob rules work (internationally and domestically) and the bad outweighs the good. It is human nature. Unless a tragedy occurrs, the yuppie mob rules are not about helping others out. it's about self-serving until there's nothing left to get.

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Old 10-28-2006, 09:57 PM
 
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Rosanna, and my fellow friends from NY/NJ, yes, admittedly from working at Lowe's, you ARE a very noticeably "loud" people, but I embrace you all and welcome you to our area! Unlike most of my fellow locals, I know that for every one dirtbag from NY/NJ who moves here to peddle heroin, there are 100 others from these areas who are moving here in search of a better life!

What about the locals who want a better life, but they can't afford properties and can't get jobs because the carpetbaggers are driving property rates, and prices for goods up and bringing NO employment opportunities to the area? Don't they deserve a right to be happy? A right to not have to go 2 hours into another state just to have a decent living??? The right for their local way of life not to be raped into this little New Yawk joke????

It's about GIVING to the community you LIVE IN.

I devoted some of my free time to helping local charities in all of the countries I have lived in, and in all of the cities I lived in - I was a proud citizen the time I lived there, happy to pay the taxes, live by the rules, not force people to follow my way of life if it differed from what was established there, and I ASSIMILATED. I didn't create new Stepford communities of thousands of other people JUST LIKE ME. I emrbraced the difference. I adpated.


If they were doing that en mass in NEPA then I'd welcome them with open arms, but they aren't and they won't and they haven't. Rather than assimilate, the gap is there where they demand the established, local community to bend to them. It doesn't work that way.

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