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View Poll Results: 3rd Largest Metro in PA?
Allentown 18 56.25%
Scranton 2 6.25%
Harrisburg 5 15.63%
Lancaster 3 9.38%
York 0 0%
Reading 1 3.13%
Erie 1 3.13%
State College 1 3.13%
Johnstown 0 0%
Altoona 0 0%
New Castle 1 3.13%
Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-09-2014, 08:22 AM
 
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Allentown... and this isn't even close.

It's closest to NJ/NY and people from NY/NJ will continue to migrate over the border for cheaper living. Plus the Lehigh Valley in general has done and continue to do a lot of good things that make it a desirable area to live. It also has become a great tourist area for various reasons...

Christmas time in Bethlehem... The Sands Casino in Bethlehem... new PPL center in Allentown... Coca Cola Park in Allentown... Muskifest... Celticfest.... plus so many great restaurants and eatery's for residents and tourists alike. It's about an hour from NY... an hour from Philly... and Harrisburg... and the poconos for skiing.

I can probably go on... but you're getting the idea.
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Old 10-09-2014, 11:15 AM
 
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steel stacks was a cool idea, one that could probably be replicated on the western side of the state
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Old 10-09-2014, 11:43 AM
 
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steel stacks was a cool idea, one that could probably be replicated on the western side of the state
like Johnstown or Farrell?
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Old 10-09-2014, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Washington County, PA
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New Castle is not a metro... it is a Micropolitan Area.

You forgot two metros... Lebanon and Williamsport.
New Castle isn't a metro, my bad, just read it. Thought I read differently.

And I thought Lebanon was part of Harrisburg? Williamsport is smaller than all I mentioned besides New Castle.
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Old 10-09-2014, 01:26 PM
 
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Lebanon became its own Metro several years ago. It is part of the Harrisburg CSA... but that's a different measure altogether.
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Old 10-09-2014, 01:39 PM
 
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Williamsport is smaller than all I mentioned besides New Castle.
Williamsport has been one of the fastest growing metros in PA in the past few years due to its central role in north-central PA's shale play. Williamsport has more of chance of overtaking Allentown than Johnstown, Altoona or New Castle.
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Old 10-09-2014, 05:47 PM
 
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Allentown... and this isn't even close.

It's closest to NJ/NY and people from NY/NJ will continue to migrate over the border for cheaper living. Plus the Lehigh Valley in general has done and continue to do a lot of good things that make it a desirable area to live. It also has become a great tourist area for various reasons...

Christmas time in Bethlehem... The Sands Casino in Bethlehem... new PPL center in Allentown... Coca Cola Park in Allentown... Muskifest... Celticfest.... plus so many great restaurants and eatery's for residents and tourists alike. It's about an hour from NY... an hour from Philly... and Harrisburg... and the poconos for skiing.

I can probably go on... but you're getting the idea.
Another plus is Allentown has a surprisingly excellent art museum for a city it's size. I went there this summer to see an exhibit on Italian Renaissance and Baroque art that much bigger cities would be jealous of. They even have a Frank Lloyd Wright room reconstructed inside there. Also, across the street is the Baum School of Art which surely must be one of the best art colleges in the state (not comparing it to the Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Art or the University of the Arts in Philly ... but still good enough to attract out of state students and have a national reputation). With Lehigh University in Bethlehem and Lafayette College in Easton I think you are right: the Lehigh Valley is firmly in third place in PA.
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Old 10-10-2014, 11:02 AM
 
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like Johnstown or Farrell?
johnstown came to mind (though maybe all bands should be required to play night of the johnstown flood). something in the pittsburgh area would work I'd think
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Old 10-10-2014, 04:37 PM
 
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I think it will still be Allentown. Reading is already part of the Philly area so it won't be a threat to the Lehigh Valley and I don't think Erie will grow fast enough to claim the #3 spot.
Yeah. Why can't Erie be like Allentown or Pittsburgh?

Ok Ok Probably never gonna happen. I can just dream.
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Old 10-13-2014, 06:29 PM
 
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Williamsport has been one of the fastest growing metros in PA in the past few years due to its central role in north-central PA's shale play. Williamsport has more of chance of overtaking Allentown than Johnstown, Altoona or New Castle.
http://www2.census.gov/geo/maps/dc10...C10UA37081.pdf
http://www2.census.gov/geo/maps/dc10...C10UA47530.pdf
http://www2.census.gov/geo/maps/dc10...C10UA01495.pdf

The census has a definition of the urbanized area around Harrisburg and Lancaster. Urbanized areas (unlike metropolitan statistical areas) do not respect county boundaries. In some cases it includes areas that are not physically connected.

Should they decide to combine Harrisburg and Lancaster into one area, it will pass Allentown.

Urban area population in 2010
1,733,853 Pittsburgh, PA
664,651 Allentown, PA—NJ
444,474 Harrisburg, PA
402,004 Lancaster, PA

It is a simple matter the limitations of change possible in the Northeast. Pennsylvania regions that are changing fast gain no more than 2% a year. Slow changing areas lose population.

Allentown and Harrisburg are both fast growing. It would take a century at these rates for Harrisburg to pass Allentown. Museums, jobs, factories are not enough to make that radical of a change.
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