Will Trump take Pennsylvania? (Pittsburgh: military, employers, place)

[fisheye]

Originally Posted by BajanYankee

I fully encourage you to vote for Trump. The sadist in me wants him to get elected just to see the country go down the tubes and his supporters freak out. When that happens, though, we won't be able to find anyone who will confess to voting for that idiot. It will be exactly like all of the Bush supporters who evaporated after it became clear the Iraq War was a "complete disaster" (as Trump says).

America probably deserves Trump. We are a country full of people who believe that the federal budget has all of the simplicity of a Bank of America checking account.

Just think of me as one of the smart Democrats that wised up!

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by fisheye

Just think of me as one of the smart Democrats that wised up!

Of course. After all, the country should be run the same way you'd run your auto supply business.

[JettaPA]

Originally Posted by BajanYankee

I fully encourage you to vote for Trump. The sadist in me wants him to get elected just to see the country go down the tubes and his supporters freak out. When that happens, though, we won't be able to find anyone who will confess to voting for that idiot. It will be exactly like all of the Bush supporters who evaporated after it became clear the Iraq War was a "complete disaster" (as Trump says).

America probably deserves Trump. We are a country full of people who believe that the federal budget has all of the simplicity of a Bank of America checking account.

I think its funny that either side can claim candidate superiority when the list of lousy presidents has come from both sides of the aisle lately. The fact is that all of these candidates are political hacks, and none of them want to tackle the biggest issue facing this country.

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by JettaPA

I think its funny that either side can claim candidate superiority when the list of lousy presidents has come from both sides of the aisle lately. The fact is that all of these candidates are political hacks, and none of them want to tackle the biggest issue facing this country.

Right. And you're making this statement based on your extensive record in government and your exhaustive reading of white papers?

[toobusytoday]

Originally Posted by HappyRider

PA is the biggest tease. Every four years we are told Pennsylvania is "in play" before Democrats win it with easy margins again. Trump message is custom made for PA but he is still behind. My conclusion is that appealing to coal and steel workers isn't working. It comes too late. The bond between the people and coal and steel is no longer there. That generation is gone and probably don't want those jobs anyway.

Back to Pennsylvania politics please or I'll close this thread and everyone can go here: //www.city-data.com/forum/elections/

[Craziaskowboi]

Yes, it will, and so will Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Nevada, and New Hampshire, for that matter. Michigan, maybe. Colorado, maybe. Wisconsin, maybe, but probably not. Minnesota won't, and neither will Virginia, whose two biggest employers are the federal government and the military-industrial complex. Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona were actually never in play for Hillary Clinton. Polls had to grossly oversample Democrats just to produce a dead heat in those states. And now the chickens are coming home to roost, and the DNC is imploding. Hillary Clinton will never be the President of the United States.

On a related note, the Clinton, Bush and Obama families deserve to be in permanent political exile, along with everybody who's ever worked for them.

[petch751]

Originally Posted by HappyRider

Hardcore Dems knew what they were getting, so no change there. The realignment is nothing short of amazing. The Main Line, if you believe the stereotypes, has got to be a shoo in for any Republican. After all, the Rs are the party of the rich. Instead, Montco has gone whole hog Democrat. The "workers party" is now representing the people who have not worked with their hands a day in their lives. So what is left? Republicans have to scour central PA for a handful of votes. Dems get that many votes in one block in the city.

- Republicans are the party of the middle class and small business,
- Democrats are actually the party of the rich, big business and big government,

There are a number of reasons why the rich tend to support the Democrats. One is the protection racket.

The Democrats are the party of Big Government, and the mega-rich often fnd themselves in a position to benefit from Big Government programs. A little subsidy here, a loan guarantee there, tax breaks for following the will of the social engineers – it all adds up.

[fisheye]

Originally Posted by BajanYankee

Right. And you're making this statement based on your extensive record in government and your exhaustive reading of white papers?

From what we have seen of Hillary; that is what Trump symbolizes - one break from any extensive record in government. We are watching how government works; you hire the friend of a friend to investigate the person you are running against or to investigate the crimes you are accused of and the outcome is predictable. Pay for Play is not working for many Pennsylvanians. You look at how many have any savings or minimal savings and you can see why it doesn't work. The hikes in Obamacare will push many to the edge - Philadelphia, the Democratic stronghold, is just waking up to the new increased rates.

Very shortly we will see who is right or if the polls have shown the way. We do not have a long time to wait.

[petch751]

Originally Posted by fisheye

Right now our State is getting rocked by increases in Obamacare; that is another reason that people might not support more years of the same.

Health care insurance premiums are increasing 53% for PA residence.

Calculating the premiums and deductibles all we have is catastrophic insurance. I am dropping our insurance, the cost to benefit ratio doesn't make sense. I thought rates were supposed to go down, instead they skyrocketed. This will be the first time in my life that I don't have healthcare insurance.

Obamacare is effecting many families negatively and people are talking, some switching to Trump, others who were voting for Hillary aren't going to vote.

[fisheye]

Originally Posted by petch751

Health care insurance premiums are increasing 53% for PA residence.

Calculating the premiums and deductibles all we have is catastrophic insurance. I am dropping our insurance, the cost to benefit ratio doesn't make sense. I thought rates were supposed to go down, instead they skyrocketed. This will be the first time in my life that I don't have healthcare insurance.

Obamacare is effecting many families negatively and people are talking, some switching to Trump, others who were voting for Hillary aren't going to vote.

It isn't only the increases; it is the lack of choice. We were in one PPO plan and then told that it was no longer offered. So we took the only HMO (Advantage) plan available to us. My wife needed to see a specialist, because of her asthma, so we made sure we got the referral from her primary physician. The specialist that she saw was in the office of another specialist that was "in plan". The specialist and her office help were new and did not know that they were not "in plan". We were never informed of this even when we called for verification because of the confusion with the one that was in plan and the one that was not. Our insurance even paid for the first visit and then, after months, did not pay for the next two visits. Just a few months later; the insurance asked for the money back from the first visit. So, basically, we were out $600. But live and learn!

What we see are insurers that will try anything to get out of paying. I personally spent hours on the phone trying to get our mess straightened out. We were even turned over to a collection agency only to be told that it was a mistake! We paid everything that was billed; but they had no idea how much we owed and the physician's billing office was very little help.

Obamacare has made everything more difficult.