I'm Sick Of Western PA Being Lumped In With New Jersey and New York (Pittsburgh: income, live)

[FL_Watch]

And being labelled as a "pretentious, cosmopolitan hellhole" by utterly ignorant folks who've never ventured east of Cleveland. Not everybody who lives in Western PA works on Wall Street. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a SINGLE Wall Street banker in Clearfield County, for example.

Clearfield County has a per-capita income of $20,142 and it's hardly even the poorest county in the state. Are you going to tell me that $20,142 is the average per-capita income of an elitist hedgefund billionaire? No, it is not. Much of PA, outside of Philly and Pittsburgh, is rural, blue-collar, white and (GASP) conservative! You can't say the same about Boca Raton, Florida.

[PamelaIamela]

Dear Sweet Jesus..
To a native New Yorker, anything west of The Meadowlands is the sticks!

[FL_Watch]

Originally Posted by PamelaIamela

Dear Sweet Jesus..
To a native New Yorker, anything west of The Meadowlands is the sticks!

No, it's not. People really are ignorant and delusional enough to believe that northwestern Pennsylvania has more in common with Long Island than with Ohio.

[Wells5]

Originally Posted by PamelaIamela

Surely this is a troll post, right?

Maybe the OP was upset by my reply to a poster who wanted out of Long Island, but desired a location in PA with similar attributes? See my post #5 in the link below in which I recommended several towns in western PA.


Relocating from Long Island, NY to PA

[Craziaskowboi]

Western Pennsylvania has plenty in common with upstate New York.

[CookieSkoon]

Okay but... most of upstate NY and a good chunk of New Jersey are not "pretentious, cosmopolitan hellholes" either. Plenty of people there do not work on Wall Street either. Aren't you generalizing while in protest of being generalized?

WHAT is your point exactly?

First and foremost, PA and NY are very similar states overall. In fact they are more similar to each other than they are to any of their other neighbors by wide margins (that happens when you are both the largest states in your region and share such a massive border). Secondly, there is a rugged, lower to middle class, salt of the earth population in Jersey as well. Northwestern and a solid swathe of southern Jersey are both fairly similar to their NY and PA neighbors.

Sure, I get that Erie and Pittsburgh are gonna more akin to Cleveland, Wheeling or maybe even Columbus than they would be to NYC or Philly. However, Buffalo and Rochester would also be on that list and they are in... NY.

FURTHER MORE, Long Island further away from the city is pretty working class and down to earth. Hardly a land of millionaires from end to end.

[blazerj]

Originally Posted by FL_Watch

And being labelled as a "pretentious, cosmopolitan hellhole" by utterly ignorant folks who've never ventured east of Cleveland. Not everybody who lives in Western PA works on Wall Street. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a SINGLE Wall Street banker in Clearfield County, for example.

Clearfield County has a per-capita income of $20,142 and it's hardly even the poorest county in the state. Are you going to tell me that $20,142 is the average per-capita income of an elitist hedgefund billionaire? No, it is not. Much of PA, outside of Philly and Pittsburgh, is rural, blue-collar, white and (GASP) conservative! You can't say the same about Boca Raton, Florida.

I lived in NY, NJ, and now in PA and have never heard anybody lump Western PA or Pittsburgh in with NJ/ NYC. Certainly, very few people east of Harrisburg think that way.

[Flyers Girl]

OP, your post reads as if you are equating New York with NYC. You do realize that NYC, in terms of acreage, is, as a percentage of the whole of the state of New York, very small?!

[eschaton]

Originally Posted by That Redneck Show

I get that. I’m not disagreeing with you.
Western NY is on the same pedestal as Central/Western PA anyways.
But I don’t believe that Western PA has an equivalent to The Hamptons, do they? I mean “equivalent”, not a pseudo-ritzy resort that’s trying to pass off as something it’s not.

But the Hamptons aren't in upstate NY. They're at the far end of Long Island. Thus I don't see why they are even part of the discussion here.

[CookieSkoon]

Originally Posted by That Redneck Show

I get that. I’m not disagreeing with you.
Western NY is on the same pedestal as Central/Western PA anyways.
But I don’t believe that Western PA has an equivalent to The Hamptons, do they? I mean “equivalent”, not a pseudo-ritzy resort that’s trying to pass off as something it’s not.

I'm not sure if the Erie coast has a nice resort, honestly. However, I didn't intend to imply that Long Island and Western PA are specifically very similar. They are part of overall similar states but those extreme ends, like in any comparable case, are not identical to each other.

By even mentioning Long Island I just meant that assuming Long Island is also an end-to-end Wall-Street-working pretentious cosmopolitan hellhole (quote from OP) is inaccurate.

My reply had a lot more to do with debunking the OP's own assumptions about NY and NJ as states than anything else.