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Old 03-25-2019, 05:51 PM
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Originally Posted by rowhomecity View Post
You are correct. Wallethub is nothing but click bait. Pennsylvania is a top 10 education state. 100%. Florida is at best at 30th or below.
And you lied, or were intentionally mistaken, yet again.

Here are state rankings based on NAEP results. Pennsylvania is firmly in the middle.


That's on the first table using test scores. Later tables aggregate the data taking into account student ethnic and financial demographics as well as cost of living. That's the one where Florida comes in first.
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Old 03-26-2019, 04:43 AM
Location: Kennett Square, PA
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Originally Posted by wharton View Post
My wife retired from a large system in NEPA, a few years back. One of her job requirements was doing placement testing of students transferring in, at the middle school level. This "entrance exam" became necessary due to the fact that a lot of highly ranked students (often from southern schools) ended up basically tanking, when exposed to age appropriate class level instruction, in my wife's district. She was frequently shocked to find both Florida public school, and southern private religious based school students in general, to be grossly over-ranked, and over graded, as compared to PA. standards. It was common to find a "star student" from the aforementioned schools to be several grades behind in reading or math skills when tested. It was pretty shocking for parents to discover that their little cherubs were honor students in their last school down south, and totally lost in mid-level classes, in what was far from a top ranked school in PA.

So yes indeed, I'm a bit skeptical of claims that Florida ranks anywhere close to any mid-Atlantic or New England state.
My goodness...in my own small county in SE PA there is massive fluctuation. I teach at a county Juvenile Detention Center, and my kids are mandated to take a reading test upon entrance. I have students, grades 8 through 12, who test between BELOW the second grade level up to the college level It's quite a challenge coming up with a curriculum whereby one half isn't bored silly while the other half isn't completely lost!
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Old 03-27-2019, 12:42 PM
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Just as a point of edification on proper usage......

-- Use "fewer" for multiples and plurals of an item, countable things such as fewer ingredients, fewer dollars, fewer people, or puppies, or school districts.
-- Use "less" for singular mass nouns...such as less salt, less money, less honesty, or love.
If you can count it, go for fewer.
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