If Mastriano wants to zero out school property taxes- (York: house, law)

[North Beach Person]

Originally Posted by villageidiot1

You mention special education, which is a good example. My understanding in PA is if a current teacher wanted to pick up an additional certification in special education, they would have to student teach again. My understanding is that applies to several other certifications such as reading specialist and physical education. Is that similar in other states?



So many errors in your response. I have a PPID. I'm a certified teacher. The test is the Praxis. I need to get Act 48 continuing education credits to keep my teaching license active.

The need to student teach again was what kept me from getting a Science certification in Pennsylvania years and years ago.

Here the prospective new certification recipient has to shadow a teacher in the field for X number of hours (don't know how many and She Who Can't Be Disturbed can't be disturbed to ask right now) but not student teach. Mrs. NBP (SWCBD) had numerous teachers shadow her in the Library over the years while getting their additional certification.

It was the same process for getting your Admin certificate.

[villageidiot1]

Originally Posted by North Beach Person

The need to student teach again was what kept me from getting a Science certification in Pennsylvania years and years ago.

Here the prospective new certification recipient has to shadow a teacher in the field for X number of hours (don't know how many and She Who Can't Be Disturbed can't be disturbed to ask right now) but not student teach. Mrs. NBP (SWCBD) had numerous teachers shadow her in the Library over the years while getting their additional certification.

It was the same process for getting your Admin certificate.

Here is the section of the PA Department of Education that addresses Instructional Add-Ons

You would only have to pass a Praxis test today for any science certification.

[RetireinPA]

Originally Posted by villageidiot1

So many errors in your response. I have a PPID. I'm a certified teacher. The test is the Praxis. I need to get Act 48 continuing education credits to keep my teaching license active.

there is not a single error in my response. as you said, you are not now nor ever have been a teacher. I even highlighted it so now you say you are?


do you know what PDE is and what is kept there? are you in PERMS?????



lets put it this way, if you were a long term sub and took inservice education, then you ALSO have a PACERS account.



anyway you slice it, your story contradicts itself. I believe you could have been a sub, like I said, we ALL have. But this is not the important part.... every single assertion you made about teachers continuing education, is completely wrong.


and yes, I know what a praxis is, I took and passed chem, science, bio and math as well as the old school; psych PK12 at TIU 11.

[villageidiot1]

Originally Posted by RetireinPA

there is not a single error in my response. as you said, you are not now nor ever have been a teacher. I even highlighted it so now you say you are?


do you know what PDE is and what is kept there? are you in PERMS?????



lets put it this way, if you were a long term sub and took inservice education, then you ALSO have a PACERS account.



anyway you slice it, your story contradicts itself. I believe you could have been a sub, like I said, we ALL have. But this is not the important part.... every single assertion you made about teachers continuing education, is completely wrong.


and yes, I know what a praxis is, I took and passed chem, science, bio and math as well as the old school; psych PK12 at TIU 11.

Wow, yes to all your questions except PACERS. I think you meant PSERS.

I'm done responding to your nonsense.

BTW, I see your school board is in favor of nepotism. See Proposal to revise Norwin's nepotism policy fails to gain support.

[Muinteoir]

Originally Posted by jtab4994

I'm honestly concerned about people not understanding how it works, thereby eroding confidence in Our Democracy. We're told poor people can't figure out how to get an ID card, which endangers Our Democracy, but they're supposed to figure out Rank Choice voting without help? For some reason I envision insidious but cheerful volunteer "helpers" going out to visit the elderly to sort out the mail-in Rank Choice ballot. No thanks.

With regular voting the User Interface is already WYSIWYG, 1 Person=1 Vote, winner take all.

Again, I'm not seeing much in the way of a principled reason not to implement the system. Everything is fear-based "what ifs" or unrelated matters like voter ID, which is actually an access issue as opposed to public education issue.

"Regular voting" is why we had some pretty depressing options for both the 2016 and 2020 presidential election cycle. I voted in both election cycles with the mindset not to throw away my vote, because I did not want the con - man (why does C-D try to censor that word? lol) in office. I didn't really like the options I had in 2016 nor 2020. I want to vote with my head+heart. I hope people come together to see the real potential rank choice voting has. It's no surprise to me that the moderate/independently-minded states of Alaska and Maine were the first to implement the system. I really wish Pennsylvania could be next.

[Wells5]

Originally Posted by Duderino

I never said anything to the contrary, but it just happens to be a particularly salient point for the PA GOP for this midterm, as both Schapiro and Fetterman won their primaries with vast majority support.

Shapiro "won" the dem's primary because he had no opposition. Usually when a politician runs unopposed, it's because she's a long serving well liked incumbent.



I'm still wondering how Shapiro (or his wealthy backers) arranged this.

[Tweb66]

Originally Posted by Wells5

Shapiro "won" the dem's primary because he had no opposition. Usually when a politician runs unopposed, it's because she's a long serving well liked incumbent.



I'm still wondering how Shapiro (or his wealthy backers) arranged this.

No you aren't, please stop. You think "the Jews" are to blame. Your antisemitism isn't hidden by your "wondering", in fact it is amplified. And for those playing at home, Wells5 has already had one thread deleted because his "wondering" was viciously antisemitic, and who knows how many more threads and comments were deleted that I don't know about.

[RetireinPA]

Originally Posted by villageidiot1

Wow, yes to all your questions except PACERS. I think you meant PSERS.

I'm done responding to your nonsense.

BTW, I see your school board is in favor of nepotism. See Proposal to revise Norwin's nepotism policy fails to gain support.

its a non issue at our school, more of a virtue signal. READ the text of the proposal, no one would assert this is a problem.


our board are only being tools w.r.t colorguard at the moment and if you didnt attend (you didnt) then you wont understand the issue - which is really a non issue but then again...toolishness abounds



but 'done responding' in this instance means, you got caught in a fib. And thats ok How many times, on THIS forum alone, do I implore people to search before they speak. yes yes, you did a tremendous amount of googling AFTER I spoke.


and yes, I have only heard 'PSERS' spoken (and it sounds like 'PACERS' and some day some retirement money will enter our household) but in my defense, I - like you - am not a PA teacher so I would never be contributing to that retirement account.


The REASON I asked you, is because if you were a long term sub (your words) for greater than a certain period, the board has to vote you in as a statutory employee and voila, you do get to participate for that year - long term sub generally means full semester or full year. and of course, I - not being a teacher - like you - would only know this cuz perhaps there is someone in my household with the same last name that did EXACTLY that, inside TIU11 (JVSD to be exact) after her student year, until she found an opening, the 2003 hiring situation being what it was then with NCLB and 'highly qualified' and other unfunded proclamations.

[jtab4994]

Originally Posted by Muinteoir

Again, I'm not seeing much in the way of a principled reason not to implement the system. Everything is fear-based "what ifs" or unrelated matters like voter ID, which is actually an access issue as opposed to public education issue.

If you want to change something, you need to provide the reason to do it. It's not the other way around.

"Regular voting" is why we had some pretty depressing options for both the 2016 and 2020 presidential election cycle. I voted in both election cycles with the mindset not to throw away my vote, because I did not want the con - man (why does C-D try to censor that word? lol) in office. I didn't really like the options I had in 2016 nor 2020. I want to vote with my head+heart. I hope people come together to see the real potential rank choice voting has. It's no surprise to me that the moderate/independently-minded states of Alaska and Maine were the first to implement the system. I really wish Pennsylvania could be next.

All you've said is that is that you didn't like the candidates of the two major parties in the last two Presidential election, but that's not reason enough to change the system. From what I've seen you are pretty enthusiastic about your candidates in 2022. Just because two other states (plus New York City) use Rank choice does not mean we should. Heck, there are plenty of other systems in use by other states including "open primary" and so-called "jungle primary". Are we supposed to just pick a new system out of a hat? What if bad candidates get vomited up by that new system, then what? Democracy ain't pretty.

P.S. I can't tell who you mean by "Con-man", the Orange one or the doddering stumblebum.

[Tweb66]

Large swaths of people would prefer to vote for a minor party candidate but don't knowing their candidate won't come close anyway, so they vote for "the lesser of two evils". A runoff allows people to vote their conscience AND have a say in which of the more likely winners actually wins. If that isn't a compelling enough argument, I don't know what is. As far as weeding out extremists, that is exactly what happened in the recent Alaska special election.



Also, when it comes to voter ID, its not that people can't "figure it out", its that its not free. Requiring something that costs money to vote=poll tax. My opinion on the matter is, you are an adult, get your **** together and get an ID, but lets make the ID free and supporting documents needed to get and ID free as well.